[Theforum] IRC Bot - thepfy

Ron Dorman rwd at csi1st.net
Fri Dec 28 14:29:00 CST 2001


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> > To trust the bot you have to trust the maker(s) of the
> > bots. That's a whole other discussion.
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> precisely.  so, do we ban the makers of the bots as well?

??? thinking about this question ???

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> > I think if someone or group wants to make a bot to be
> > called for official meetings as a helper then that's
> > cool. But the bots cause friction, I think.
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> people's perceptions of the room and the bots involved are what are causing
> friction -- not the bots by themselves.

disagree.  one more occurrence of the continuing friction of the past several
months.

> hell, thebot has been in #evolt for
> a year now and no one has had an issue with it.   eliza's been there for a
> good six months or more (dean, correct me if i'm wrong) and no one has
> complained.  martin wants to try one out and the discussion flares up.  what
> if i wanted to learn how to make one?

I have no problem with people making things for learning and entertainment.
these issues go beyond learning and entertainment.

> no, this isn't about bots.  it's about personality conflicts

+1 with additions/reservations

> and
> misunderstandings of the medium (irc).

don't think so!

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> > Someone said, "I don't care what a perl script thinks of
> > me." The fact is, it's not a script it's what people
> > feed it and #evolt seems to have become a place for
> > nasty grafitti about others.
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> banning the bots doesn't stop that.  the nasty graffiti will continue until
> the personality conflicts and misunderstandings are worked out.  the only
> difference is that the nastiness will only be shared with human users
> present at the time and not taught to the bots to be regurgitated later
> (though there's no saying none of the humans present won't regurgitate it
> later without prompting).  at least the bots only "learn" or say things
> about people if they're specifically addressed.  the same certainly can't be
> said of human users.

yep!  cease and desist has been asked several times.  may the question above
should be seriously considered.

Ron D.





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