Since no one else really ran with it, or offered other suggestions, I've got some stuff together to help raise some money for evolt, specifically to help alleviate the hosting costs. my question for now for you, theforum, is would you buy a "Limited Edition evolt.org mousepad"? and if so, how many would you buy? and if you would buy more than 2, would you preorder them? :) http://members.evolt.org/djc/evolt/mousepads/ shows a sample, kinda. the Limited Edition pad would be black and simply have the evolt.org logo(cube+text) on it. simple, classy, cool. they're the laminate surface because cloth pads suck IMO. i'm tight on disposable income ATM, or I'd just buy them on my own and sell them, and thats why I was wondering if people would mind pre-ordering. if a fair amount of people did pre-order, i could front the rest(or someone else could offer tohelp). and i'd like to get an idea of how many to order. as you can see on that page, the more that are ordered, the cheaper they are. although you get better deals for ordering more, its harder to sell 5000 mousepads :) i was thinking of an initial purchase of either 125 or 250. and looking for input on the average price of mousepads(i realize most people don't buy them, but people tend to purchase branded things they wouldn't otherwise buy) i'd reallly appreciate any feedback :) thnx! .djc.