[Theforum] RE: leadership

Ron Dorman rwd at csi1st.net
Sat Apr 20 20:03:30 CDT 2002


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Amanda,

I am not going to burn up more bandwidth and other evolters time with
this.  I will respond off-list and provide that response to anyone that
wishes to see it.

Ron D.

A. Erickson wrote:

>>Things get handled well enough as they are now.  This means things
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>will
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>>not fall apart while we organize and define good processes (the other
>>things we need to do with our time).
>>
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>So, this is a "nuh-uh" post?
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>Things get handled. Whether or not they get handled "well enough" is
>highly debatable. If things were getting handled well then we wouldn't
>be having this discussion.
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>Clearly and for the record, it is my understanding that things are "well
>enough" for Ron Dorman. So noted. Moving on.
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>>I have never been anti-process.  I have been against implementing an
>>uneeded process and/or process that has not been thought through and
>>planned to support evolt.org needs.
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>That's not a very bold stance, Ron. Everyone is for smart stuff and
>against stupid stuff. Big deal.
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>You have talked about people disagreeing just to disagree -- here I
>posit that you reply to 99% of my posts merely to disagree with *me*.
>Saying that you're for smart stuff and against stupid stuff just isn't a
>stance that needs mentioning unless you simply want to disagree to
>disagree.
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>Here's another example:
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>>However I believe our top leadership is just fine.
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>Well, that's just fine, isn't it? Just fine.
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>>I don't think the foundering is due to bad leadership.
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>I see a lot of people frustrated, going back over the same ground again
>and again and spinning wheels in old ruts. In fact I see the actual
>leadership of our group stymied by the point of power in the group. So,
>perhaps you are right -- we have (good) leadership that is mostly
>ineffectual because they don't have the power.
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>- amanda
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