[Theforum] finding a home for weo & leo

[Martin]

On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 07:32  pm, Warden, Matt wrote:

>
> martin wrote:
>> The important question is "Is it in the net best interests of evolt.org
>> to own hardware?" If the answer is 'No', then there's a secondary set
>> of
>> questions about when and how to stop doing so
>
> Unless we're seriously considering a no-downtime move, let's leave this
> until later.

If we work towards a good first cut at answering the first question
soonish, I'm happy to leave the second ones

The first question is not a hard question btw, and answering it doesn't
involve a lot of *doing* which takes time to plan.

> I don't mind spending time moving the boxes and then having other people
> move the services to a host-owned box a month later. I just want to
> focus
> on the move until it's taken care of. Then we can answer all the
> questions
> we want and change anything we want.

Sure, that's OK, on the condition that "We're here now, so let's forget
about it" is a not-good-enough level of rigour once we're there.

> And if we are considering a no-downtime move, there is a lot more to be
> considered.

I think that that's still an open question - and may not be the same for
every evolt service.

> Especially when our
> "best" option is probably going to put a greater financial reliance on
> our
> fundraisers/sales.

Again, that's an open question ("Will owning our own kit cost us more
financially over x years?" - rn I don't know and I don't think it's cut
and dried)

> Like rudy said:
>
>> we may not have time to select a host "by the book,"
>
> If you're kicked out of your house, are you going to spend 3 weeks
> determing what you need in a shelter, what the best location is, and
> what
> they serve for dinner on tuesdays?

If you get seven months' notice, and it's likely that your next house is
going to be your permanent home, yes.
(and I've been in that situation more than once, and used both options)

> Miriam, the vote on the prioritization isn't over. It was just clear
> that
> there was no opposition to leo and weo being the top priorities. Let me
> know exactly what your vote was and I'll record it.

Another area which could do with slotting in:
admin tools (whether they're the current or a future aeo, a proposed
zeo, or what)

> we do need to get our focus on the goal and the goal alone: fine *a*
> host
> for evolt services that will ALLOW the organization to continue existing

True. But let's use the time we have. It would be somewhat daft to have
all this sown up in a month without giving it the proper thought.

Because as I said, temporary decisions tend to slide into permanent
ones...

Cheers
Martin
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