my cents: asking for donations to give licenses away is a great plan $10 is ok with me madhu: when i subed to pay-pal they charged me that fee, but then they returned it - i was some beauracratic thing. a person who workes with me recently subed to pay-pal and was also freaked by that fee. i can't tell if they are still returning it or not. i understand how you feel, but if it makes you feel better, i haven't had problems with them. i think madhu has a good point in saying that if we lower the required minimum down the road is giving a bad message. we need to decide if it's 5 or 10. marlene, thanks for breaking up the donations like that, it's very interesting.