[Theforum] evolt.org revamp comment period open

[.jeff]

martin,

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> From: Martin Burns
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> > this portion of the conversation needs to stop until
> > someone can come forward with actual numbers the
> > various services are costing us.
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> Disagree.
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agree to disagree then.

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> It's an integral part of the package, which is
> essentially:
> 1) Cut costs where possible
> 2) Bring in sustainable revenue through an improved meo
>    as donations aren't cutting it
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we can't possibly know if #2 is being satisfied if we don't have numbers in
hand that indicate current expenses meo is creating.  so, while i agree that
#1 is important (and the mission of this thread), i don't believe we can
assess the liability meo creates and therefore the actions we need to take
with regard to it without all the facts.

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> Looking at meo in isolation:
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> 1) It's using bandwidth, therefore adding costs.
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how much?

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> 2) It's intended purpose (a learning space) is a
>    second-rate version of what's done better elsewhere.
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that's a matter of debate whether or not what's offered elsewhere is better.
i'll leave it at that.

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> 3) What it could be (ie somewhat along the lines of what
>    you're using it for now) would develop the community
>    better
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agreed.

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> 4) Enabling it as production hosting of specific
>    applications, as a low-cost, yet paid option, would
>    provide the larger part of the funding we actually
>    need.
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which, again, is how much based on current usage?

.jeff

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