On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 01:24 PM, Russell Griechen wrote: > Martin, I am still smarting from your suggestion that I would hack the > server down. > It reminds me of schoolboys, grasping at straws to use to club someone > who > had the audacity to attack the status quo. To further comment on this: 1) You've failed to understand (or worse: have deliberately ignored) the difference between a reference to a historical event and an accusation of future intent 2) I know plenty of schoolboys who understand that bringing up closed and apologised for subjects is petty and diminishes the likelihood of being taken seriously 3) You've conveniently ignored that I've been somewhat supportive of some of your ideas 4) I think my record as a non-acceptor of statii-quo just because they are such is reasonably well established. > Now lets get on with the plan. To summarise as I understand it: 1) You think evolt.org should offer large-volume commercial hosting 2) You think that we should spend a lot more effort selling advertising to the extent of making substantial changes in the site design to maximise banner revenue. I think they're both non-starters except in very limited ways. We're not a hosting company (nor an organisation like f20 that offers developer space as a community service), and as you note, the bottom has largely fallen out of the hosting market. Offering community tools that happen to use space and bandwidth is a very different model. Also, the level of billing organisation required to support any large-scale hosting operation is just not going to happen with evolt.org's busy volunteers. The bottom has also fallen out of the advertising market. I don't mind putting together a limited test that piggy-backs on what we're already doing, requiring no more than making space in a template design, but I really do not want to distract the 'making evolt better' redesign that we're currently doing to refocus it on commercial advertisers. To put it another way, I think there's almost nil chance of finding the time to develop the thousands of pages you recommend. Cheers Martin -- Now playing on iTunes: "Had She Been Aye" by Ivan Drever from 'Every Breaking Heart'