I got responses to my mac help request with screenshots, which helped terrifically (result: there is nothing wrong with the page, except the design -tied to the graphics which I didn't do, is left i/o ctr), so that's resolved. I also got help with my SQL question (the answer was in the book I lost apparently! :-)) Thanks Evoltians, you guys are the greatest. Palyne -------- Palyne Gaenir ScienceHorizon Web Media http://www.sciencehorizon.com palyne at sciencehorizon.com Toll-Free 877-316-0763