>TextPad 4 has <font size="-1"><sup>tm</sup></font> when i was a kid they used to tell me my nose was too big and my brain was too small shirley if you care you will write <small><sup<tm></sup</small> see, that's what's wrong with wygiwyd editors -- what you get is what you deserve <tip> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/iso8859/iso8859-pointers.html#TM </tip> - - - - - - fractals is a *great* word to describe niches rudy.limeback r937.com evolt.org