http://www.jeepunpaved.com/frameset_home.html This, my friends, is what I call a good example of what NOT to do with frames.... White space on BOTH sides of the frame??? Want to bet that the genius who though that was a good idea has pointy hair?? Thanks, Ron White rwhite at edverify.com Director of Technology EdVerifY, Inc. P - 561-748-1999 ext 601 F - 561-746-9023