oh, this reminds me of the first (& only) HTML class I took at a community training center: we were given a list of 'colors' with very poetic names: gold was among them... and I remember how so many of them looked like crap (none were web-safe) and how the gold did indeed look green. It doesn't hurt to stay safe. <tip type="color safety"> Many of the colors which are on the official list of colors that the browsers are supposed to recognize... oh I forget where this is, probably the w3c HTML specs... are NOT web safe. You may as well just use the hex code for the web safe palette (#CCCCCC) as opposed to using words ("silver" -- not the same, & not safe) to designate colors. While it isn't possible to be totally consistent across different platforms, it's helpful to have a certain level of control. </tip> > Lightening it up a bit did let me see the different orange/yellow >colors, but the "gold" recommended looked "green" on my monitor :-).