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> 1. RE: Do I be nice or attack with legal? (M. Hannan)
> 2. RE: fusebox and asp? (McCreath_David)
> 3. Re: Site transfer - Hosted on a mac - going on Linux -HELP! (Winfried
>Huslik)
> 4. RE: Layer over form objects? (Aylard JA (James))
> 5. RE: fusebox and asp? (Herzog, Ari)
> 6. Perl have something similar to php header()? (CDitty)
> 7. RE: fusebox and asp? (Scott Dexter)
> 8. Re: Perl have something similar to php header()? (Matthew Fischer)
> 9. Re: Storing an image in mysql db (using perl) (deboute benjamin)
> 10. Re: Perl have something similar to php header()? (CDitty)
> 11. RE: Common Fonts (Jacob Stetser)
> 12. Re: Common Fonts (rudy)
> 13. Re: Perl have something similar to php header()? (Anthony Baratta)
> 14. Re: CSS applied to textboxes (phammar at dplanet.ch)
> 15. Re: Common Fonts (Peggy Daniels)
> 16. CFREPORT, the 'TYPE' attribute & Crystal Reports 8 (Dan Slater)
> 17. Re: LiveMotion for $99 (John Dowdell)
> 18. Re: Common Fonts (Shirley Kaiser, SKDesigns)
> 19. Re[2]: [thelist] Evolt.org, IE 5.5 - Found the problem ... (Michiel
>Trimpe)
> 20. Re: [OT] Joining two PDF documents (Jason Belec)
> 21. how the mighty have fallen (Meredith Tupper)
> 22. CF: What's that tag? (Frank)
> 23. RE: CF: What's that tag? (Seth Bienek)
> 24. Re: Common Fonts (Jacob Stetser)
> 25. RE: CFREPORT, the 'TYPE' attribute & Crystal Reports 8 (Seth Bienek)
> 26. RE: CF Freebie (Frank)
> 27. RE: CF Freebie (Seth Bienek)
> 28. Re: how the mighty have fallen (aardvark)
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>Message: 1
>Reply-To: webmaster at 9lupine.com
>From: "M. Hannan" <desmoljones at hotmail.com>
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: RE: [thelist] Do I be nice or attack with legal?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:56:10 -0000
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>I think the "nice" way is to tell them to remove it or you will take legal
>action. Telling Yahoo first isn't nice, telling them (the competitor) is.
>
>m@
>
>
> >From: "Herzog, Ari" <Ari_Herzog at Instron.com>
> >Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> >To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> >Subject: RE: [thelist] Do I be nice or attack with legal?
> >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:29:53 -0500
> >
> >I quote my manager's response after sending an email
> >about why we should not be nice about it:
> >
> >"It is better to start the nice (low cost way) and then escalate only if
> >necessary.
> >I would rather spend the money on content than on lawyers. It would serve
> >us
> >better
> >to have them first banned from certain search engines than for them to
> >withdraw
> >under legal pressure. Starting with legal threats will likely only harden
> >their position."
> >
> >
> >You see what I am up against?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: M. Hannan [mailto:desmoljones at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 11:47 AM
> >To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> >Subject: Re: [thelist] Do I be nice or attack with legal?
> >
> >
> >Have your legal dept. (or lawyer) prepare a cease and desist letter.
> >There's precedent for this:
> >
> >http://www.gtlaw.com.au/pubs/metatags.html
> >
> >m@
> >
> >
> > >From: "Herzog, Ari" <Ari_Herzog at Instron.com>
> > >Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > >To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> > >Subject: [thelist] Do I be nice or attack with legal?
> > >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:36:35 -0500
> > >
> > >Hi all. It has been discovered several months ago that one of our
> > >competitors is using
> > >our patented company name in their keywords, as well as using
> >misspellings
> > >of our name as well.
> > >Clearly, this is against the law for search engines.
> > >
> > >My boss is under the impression I, being webmaster, should email their
> > >webmaster
> > >and their ISP about it. I feel we should have our corporate attorneys
> >send
> > >them
> > >a certified letter.
> > >
> > >Which to do?
> > >
> > >
> > >FWIW, we just got a legal letter from THEM about changing something on
> >our
> > >site as well.
> > >
> > >Thx,
> > >Ari
> > >
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>Message: 2
>From: McCreath_David <McCreath_David at xmail.asd.k12.ak.us>
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] fusebox and asp?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:05:54 -0900
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> >From: Raymond Camden
> >
> >I don't think that is exactly what he means. Fusebox is a way of doing
> >things, but people mainly use it with CF. Anyway, David, have you tried
> >posting on the Fusebox listserv? (I'm not saying don't post
> >here, I just
> >want to make sure you know that a fusebox listserv exists. :)
>
>Hi, Raymond --
>
>Yeah, the "way of doing things" is what I was referring to, and no I
>haven't
>tried subbing to the fusebox listserv. I'll look into it...thanks!
>
>I'm still interested in knowing from people on this list, though. :)
>
> >> From: Herzog, Ari
> >>
> >> I may be off, but I believe Fusebox can work with ASP via WDDX.
>
>Hi, Ari -- *I* may be off, too, but are you thinking of ColdFusion itself?
>I
>know WDDX by name and the place that I've seen it is in the context of
>letting an ASP server and a ColdFusion server share information. Fusebox is
>a way of building web apps that was developed for use with ColdFusion. See
>www.fusebox.org if you don't know what I'm talking about (not that *I* know
>what I'm talking about... :)
>
>Dave
>
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>Message: 3
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Site transfer - Hosted on a mac - going on Linux
>-HELP!
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:10:54 +0100
>From: Winfried Huslik <winfried at huslik.de>
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Hi Stef,
>
>You didn't mention what your site and database consists of and what the
>objetives are, but be careful! This could be a job of weeks - depending
>on what he is currently doing with the database and expecting to be done
>in the future.
>
>I'm going through this process now - not because the cusomer wanted it,
>but for the nice new things that can be done with PHP and MySQL (on a
>server at a big ISP).
>
>Moving the layouts would be the easy thing, programming a database is
>something else. It makes no difference what system you come from or move
>to. SQL is not FileMaker, even when used with WebStar. If it isn't for
>(security, performance, availability, traffic, or other)-reasons he'd be
>better off to stick to his current configuration. Never change a winning
>team! If FileMaker can do the job, why change?
>
>Winfried Huslik
>
>
>
>On 2000-12-18 18:06 Uhr, Stef (taz at hy.cgocable.ca) wrote:
>
> > Hi dudes (& dudettes) ! :o)
> >
> >
> > Ok. I have a customer that would like his site transfered from a mac
> >server & File-MakerPro DB to . . . a linux+appache+mysql setup.
> >His site is on a MAC server, & is connected to filemaker pro database.
> >
> >Now. This is my first site transfer & would be interested in hearing from
> >others experience, for any details I could miss out on. Any help /
>comment
> >welcomed, onlist or offlist. I don t have many details as of yet on the
> >site itself, what are the scripting languages for a Mac environnement?!?
> >Would it be easier to just keep the site in a MAC environnement?
> >
> >I figure if I stay in Mac environnement, I basically just have to change
> >the links, database configuration on the dynamic pages, pop a
>redirection
> >script on the old host and bingo. 1 days work ? Maybe 2 , if we account
>for
> >Murphy's law?
> >
> >If, on the other hand we go for the mac to linux option, I guess THAT
> >means re-writing the links in the static pages, re-create DB on mysql &
> >update dynamic page configuration. A little more work, but the site would
> >be in a PhP/MySql environment, like he desirer.
> >I'm interested in keeping this customer, & would like to lay out both
> >options clearly, the work involved, with pricing fees included for both
> >solutions, if possible. I love a challenge but wouldn t want to tackle
> >something too big for me. Thanks again, fellow E-Voltians.
> >
> >Offline/online help/comments welcomed. stef at cfusions.com
> >
> ><tip>
> >I read an article that changed my way of writing tables. People often
> >design tables the way they write: horizontally, from top to bottom. Often
> >times your layout can be simplified a great deal by thinking
>'vertically',
> >and giving your vertical cells fixed width. You still have to follow the
> >rules for cross-browser consistancy but.. having a simpler design makes
> >this process a LOT easier.
> ></tip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 4
>From: "Aylard JA (James)" <jaylard at equilon.com>
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] Layer over form objects?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:13:47 -0600
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Leo,
>
> > Is it possible to send a form object behind a layer? I thought I saw a
> > message on this recently, but I can't seem to find it. (I have tried
> > z-index to no avail...)
>
> This depends on the browser make and model:
>
>IE 4+
> * Only the <select> element cannot be z-indexed. You have to use
>trickery
>to make it disappear behind another element (such as a positioned div):
>namely, change its visibility property to "hidden", or its display property
>to "none" when a positioned div obscures it.
>
>Netscape 4.x
> * Most form elements do not reliably z-index. For safety's sake,
>pretend
>that none of them do and place your form within its own positioned <layer>
>or (preferably) <div>, and hide that entire "layer" as required.
>
>Netscape 6.x
> * All form elements z-index.
>
>hth,
>James Aylard
>
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>Message: 5
>From: "Herzog, Ari" <Ari_Herzog at Instron.com>
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] fusebox and asp?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:25:40 -0500
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Doh! Right. Thanks.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: McCreath_David [mailto:McCreath_David at xmail.asd.k12.ak.us]
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 3:06 PM
>To: 'thelist at lists.evolt.org'
>Subject: RE: [thelist] fusebox and asp?
>
>
> >From: Raymond Camden
> >
> >I don't think that is exactly what he means. Fusebox is a way of doing
> >things, but people mainly use it with CF. Anyway, David, have you tried
> >posting on the Fusebox listserv? (I'm not saying don't post
> >here, I just
> >want to make sure you know that a fusebox listserv exists. :)
>
>Hi, Raymond --
>
>Yeah, the "way of doing things" is what I was referring to, and no I
>haven't
>tried subbing to the fusebox listserv. I'll look into it...thanks!
>
>I'm still interested in knowing from people on this list, though. :)
>
> >> From: Herzog, Ari
> >>
> >> I may be off, but I believe Fusebox can work with ASP via WDDX.
>
>Hi, Ari -- *I* may be off, too, but are you thinking of ColdFusion itself?
>I
>know WDDX by name and the place that I've seen it is in the context of
>letting an ASP server and a ColdFusion server share information. Fusebox is
>a way of building web apps that was developed for use with ColdFusion. See
>www.fusebox.org if you don't know what I'm talking about (not that *I* know
>what I'm talking about... :)
>
>Dave
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:35:11 -0600
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: CDitty <mail at redhotsweeps.com>
>Subject: [thelist] Perl have something similar to php header()?
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
>Can anyone tell me if Perl has something similar to PHP's header()
>command? I have looked in my perl book, but can't find
>anything. Basically, I am trying to get something like this for perl. -
>header("Location: http://www.php.net");
>
>Thanks
>
>CDitty
>
>
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>Message: 7
>From: Scott Dexter <sgd at ti3.com>
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] fusebox and asp?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:59:14 -0600
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > Hi, Ari -- *I* may be off, too, but are you thinking of
> > ColdFusion itself? I
> > know WDDX by name and the place that I've seen it is in the context of
> > letting an ASP server and a ColdFusion server share
> > information. Fusebox is
>
>WDDX is an API layer to let apps (web servers) send each other XML
>encapsulated messages ... check http://wddx.org/ for more...
>sgd
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:05:08 -0500
>From: Matthew Fischer <mfischer at e-fishsolutions.com>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Perl have something similar to php header()?
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>print "Location: http://www.whatever.com\n\n;"
>
>Note the two linefeeds after the url, they are required.
>
>
>On 12/18/00 at 2:35 PM, mail at redhotsweeps.com (CDitty) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me if Perl has something similar to PHP's header()
> > command? I have looked in my perl book, but can't find
> > anything. Basically, I am trying to get something like this for perl. -
> > header("Location: http://www.php.net");
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > CDitty
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:18:35 +0100
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: deboute benjamin <deboute at fr.clara.net>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Storing an image in mysql db (using perl)
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>At 10:57 18/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
> >Adrian Fischer wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > Is it possible to store an image in a mysql db. Presently I am
>uploading
> > > the images to a directory and just saving the url to the image in the
> > db. I
> > > thought it might be more econimical to have the image with the rest of
>the
> > > record.
> >
> >Yep - you store it as a blob (Binary Large Object). This here url is a
> >good place to start (with example code and everthing!)
> >http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~james/programs/mysql/
>
>just think of sending a mime header in concordance with the type of image
>you want to display.
>
>
>
>deboute benjamin
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:25:27 -0600
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: CDitty <mail at redhotsweeps.com>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Perl have something similar to php header()?
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Thanks. That did it.
>
>CDitty
>
>At 03:05 PM 12/18/00, you wrote:
> >print "Location: http://www.whatever.com\n\n;"
> >
> >Note the two linefeeds after the url, they are required.
> >
> >
> >On 12/18/00 at 2:35 PM, mail at redhotsweeps.com (CDitty) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me if Perl has something similar to PHP's header()
> > > command? I have looked in my perl book, but can't find
> > > anything. Basically, I am trying to get something like this for perl.
>-
> > > header("Location: http://www.php.net");
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > CDitty
> >
> >---------------------------------------
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>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:15:45 -0500
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: Jacob Stetser <lists at icongarden.com>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] Common Fonts
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> >I would also say if you want the look of arail. Which is narrower than
> >Verdana specify Geneva first, as the face.
>
>+1 :)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jacob Stetser [mailto:lists at icongarden.com]
> >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:48 AM
> >To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> >Subject: Re: [thelist] Common Fonts
> >
> >
> >For the love of God and all that is readable, please do not use Arial
> >if you wish your site to be usable on Macs. (I've said this before
> >but I bring it up again because it bears repeating). Any Mac that has
> >Arial installed also has Verdana, so you can safely use Verdana
> >instead.
> >
> >Why not use Arial? It's too thin and tall and on the Mac at lower
> >sizes Arial emboldened does not look any different from Arial
> >regular. So those nice bold headlines you come up with? They look the
> >same as everything else in Arial.
> >
> >So use Verdana, Helvetica, san-serif as your choices if you want to
> >be xplatform.
> >
> >Thanks! This has been a public service message brought to you by me!
> >
> >Jake
> >>
> >>These days, you can usually get away with Arial, Times, Courier, and
> >>Helvetica. Quite often people have Verdana as well, as it's a free
> >>one usually installed with just about any MS product (including
> >>browsers).
> >>
> >>I have no idea about Linux, but I'm sure someone will chime in soon.
> >
> >--
> >=================================================
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> >belong to us as well. -Voltaire, philosopher, historian, satirist,
> >dramatist, and essayist (1694-1778)
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>Message: 12
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Common Fonts
>From: rudy <Rudy_Limeback at maritimelife.ca>
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:16:21 -0500
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > For the love of God and all that is readable, please do not
> > use Arial if you wish your site to be usable on Macs. (I've
> > said this before but I bring it up again because it bears
> > repeating). Any Mac that has Arial installed also has Verdana,
> > so you can safely use Verdana instead.
>
>hi jake
>
>here's a page that goes into this problem in quite some detail --
>
> Improving Appearance of Arial Font on the Macintosh
> (Solutions for both Mac Users and Web Developers)
> http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/
>
>the solutions for web developers
>(http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/#WebAuthors)
>suggests that
>
> The best choice is therefore:
> <FONT FACE="Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> This way, the Mac users see Geneva, Windows users see
> Arial, and UNIX users see Helvetica.
>
> As still another option, if you actually prefer the
> appearance of "Verdana" (another sans-serif font), you
> might specify:
> <FONT FACE="Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> This way, Verdana is used if present (on either Windows
> or Mac). If not, then Geneva is used on the Mac, Arial
> on Windows, and Helvetica on UNIX.
>
>
>rudy.ca
>
>
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:04:26 -0800
>From: Anthony Baratta <Anthony at Baratta.com>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Perl have something similar to php header()?
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>At 02:35 PM 12/18/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Can anyone tell me if Perl has something similar to PHP's header()
> >command? I have looked in my perl book, but can't find
> >anything. Basically, I am trying to get something like this for perl. -
> >header("Location: http://www.php.net");
>
>print "Location: http://www.php.net\n\n";
>
>Note the two returns, they are required. Also this can be the ONLY print
>statement you send to the browser.
>
>
>
>---
>Anthony Baratta
>President
>Keyboard Jockeys
>
>
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>Message: 14
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:54:05 +0100
>From: phammar at dplanet.ch
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: Re: [thelist] CSS applied to textboxes
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Hi,
>You can use something like this:
>(the font tags are for NS which doesn't apply the css on the select)
>
><style>
>.select { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
>9px; color: #0066CC; background-color: #DAE9F4;}
></style>
><form>
><font size="-1">
><select name="select" class="select">
> <option >12365897</option>
></select>
></font>
></form>
>
>
>HTH,
>Peter
>
>
> >Is it possible to apply styles to a select box? I *think* I've seen it
>done,
> >but can't remember where, and I've gone nuts trying on my own. I can
> >get them to work for everything else but.
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 15
>Date: 18 Dec 2000 14:58:12 -0800
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: Peggy Daniels <peg at anxietygirl.com>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Common Fonts
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>This may help...
>
><tip type="fonts">
>At this url:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.asp
>
>you can select any MS product to see a list of fonts that are included with
>it. Or you can select a font to find out which MS products include it.
>
>I tried to find a listing of fonts included with installation of Netscape
>Navigator, but my searches were fruitless.
></tip>
>
>sorry to give half an answer but it's a start anyway.
>
>--Peg
>writing from very cold and snowy southeastern michigan, usa
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 18 December 2000, Julia Frizzell wrote:
> > These days, you can usually get away with Arial, Times, Courier, and
> > Helvetica. Quite often people have Verdana as well, as it's a free
> > one usually installed with just about any MS product (including
> > browsers).
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 16
>From: Dan Slater <DSlater at buxtonco.com>
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:55:11 -0600
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Subject: [thelist] CFREPORT, the 'TYPE' attribute & Crystal Reports 8
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Okay,
>
>I'm nearing 'gasket popping' levels of frustration here.
>
>1. Allaire creates cfreport tag for interfacing with crystal reports.
>Allaire continues to patch/update/repair the tag as needed as new versions
>of Crystal Reports are released.
>
>2. Crystal reports 7 does not allow connectivity to SQL databases using the
>'standard' edition.
>
>3. I upgrade to Crystal Reports 8 Professional edition.
>
>4. Crystal Reports 8 is no longer compatible with Cold Fusion's cfreport
>tag.
>
>5. Allaires KB says to use the undocumented 'type' attribute and assign it
>the value of "Microsoft".
>
>6. Nada. Zilch. Zippo. Less than zero.
>
>7. Crystal Reports Technical support states that they "do not support
>crystal reports used in conjunction with Allaire's Cold Fusion "cfreport"
>tag" and that for technical support I should contact Allaire.
>
>8. Since allaire already has a KB article stating their 'workaround' (which
>by the way does not work) - and Seagate says it's not their problem - I'm
>left holding the bag - so to speak.
>
>9. Argh?
>
>Does anyone out there have any experience with this issue?
>Does anyone out there KNOW someone with experience on this issue?
>Has anyone out there gotten the TYPE="Microsoft" attribute to actually
>WORK?
>
>
>Please help a fellow developer out - before his head explodes. Thank you.
>
>Dan Slater
>CF Developer
>www.buxtonco.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 17
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:13:02 -0800
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: jdowdell at macromedia.com (John Dowdell)
>Subject: Re: [thelist] LiveMotion for $99
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>At 11:41 AM 12/18/0, Howell, Katie wrote:
> > Hi all, Here's a deal for ya!
> > LiveMotion for $99!
> > Are we insane? Oh, no sirree!
>
>You'll pay me $99 for taking a box off your hands....? ;-)
>
>jd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 18
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:25:05 -0800
>From: "Shirley Kaiser, SKDesigns" <skaiser at skdesigns.com>
>Organization: SKDesigns
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Common Fonts
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Jake wrote:
>
> > > For the love of God and all that is readable, please do not
> > > use Arial if you wish your site to be usable on Macs. (I've
> > > said this before but I bring it up again because it bears
> > > repeating). Any Mac that has Arial installed also has Verdana,
> > > so you can safely use Verdana instead.
>
>Rudy responded:
>
> > hi jake
> >
> > here's a page that goes into this problem in quite some detail --
> >
> > Improving Appearance of Arial Font on the Macintosh
> > (Solutions for both Mac Users and Web Developers)
> > http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/
> >
> > the solutions for web developers
> > (http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/#WebAuthors)
> > suggests that
> >
> > The best choice is therefore:
> > <FONT FACE="Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> > This way, the Mac users see Geneva, Windows users see
> > Arial, and UNIX users see Helvetica.
> >
> > As still another option, if you actually prefer the
> > appearance of "Verdana" (another sans-serif font), you
> > might specify:
> > <FONT FACE="Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> > This way, Verdana is used if present (on either Windows
> > or Mac). If not, then Geneva is used on the Mac, Arial
> > on Windows, and Helvetica on UNIX.
> >
> > rudy.ca
> >
>
>Peg also responded:
> >>
>This may help...
>
><tip type="fonts">
>At this url:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.asp
>
>you can select any MS product to see a list of fonts that are included
>with it. Or you can select a font to find out which MS products include
>it.
>
>I tried to find a listing of fonts included with installation of
>Netscape Navigator, but my searches were fruitless.
></tip>
>
>sorry to give half an answer but it's a start anyway.
>
>--Peg
><<
>
>My response:
>I set up a section at WebsiteTips.com for dealing with issues like this
>(I'm the editor there), which includes both of the above references and
>much more, too. So you might check that out, bookmark it, as I add new
>sites and information all the time. Some of the references I've listed
>also have screenshots so you can see how these different fonts and sizes
>show up on different systems and browsers.
>
>It's a real eye-opener!
>
>WebsiteTips.com
>
>Click on: Cross-Browser, Cross-Platform Font Issues
>http://www.websitetips.com/design/
>
>I hope you find that helpful, too. These font issues are questions that
>come up all the time on a bunch of different lists.
>
>Warmly,
>Shirley
>--
>Shirley E. Kaiser, M.A.
>SKDesigns mailto:skaiser at skdesigns.com
>Website Development http://www.skdesigns.com/
>Pianist, Composer http://www.shirleykaiser.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 19
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:52:08 +0100
>From: Michiel Trimpe <mtrimpe at juvex.com>
>Reply-To: Michiel Trimpe <mtrimpe at juvex.com>
>Organization: Juvex Web Development
>To: djc <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: Re[2]: [thelist] Evolt.org, IE 5.5 - Found the problem ...
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Hello djc,
>
>Saturday, December 16, 2000, 07:58:52, you wrote:
>
>d> Ok. First thing that jumps to my mind is "holy shit, i wonder how many
>d> people are getting 404's when they come to our site!"
>
>d> I've been up most of the night reading some rfc's to try to pin this one
>d> down(friday night party animal :) and i've come up with a couple things
>d> that I'll try.. More to come soon..
>
>d> Thanks for the help though everyone :)
>
>What status code are you guys giving? With a 404 IE 5+ gives a
>standard error message unless the article is above x (255) characters if
>I'm correct ... I guess if you didn't manage the error codes correctly
>then that would cause the problem ..... that could be the case
>considering you're working with fictional page names ....
>
>Anyhow, I'm not getting them with IE 5.1 and Win98
>
>--
>Best regards,
> Michiel mailto:mtrimpe at juvex.com
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 20
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:47:20 -0500
>Subject: Re: [thelist] [OT] Joining two PDF documents
>From: Jason Belec <pdfworkflows at home.com>
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Import the one into the other. It will import all the pages, so start at
>the
>end.
>
>--
>Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows at home.com
>Digital Workflows Specialist, (613) 824-2243 EST
>especially PDF
>
>"It's always easy, we just think too hard..."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions
>Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions
>New Media Corporate Training
>
>PDF Course Instructor CEO & President
>Document Computing Institute NOITAMINANIMATION
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Articles of interest:
> http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html
> http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html
>
>Web site of interest:
> http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf
>
>
> > From: "Gustavo Arizpe" <garizpe at network.com.mx>
> > Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:19:36 -0600
> > To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> > Subject: [thelist] [OT] Joining two PDF documents
> >
> > I have two PDF documents generated from different sources. How can I
>join
> > them together in a single PDF file? I have Acrobat 3.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gustavo
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > For unsubscribe and other options, including
> > the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to:
> > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 21
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:13:07 -0500
>From: Meredith Tupper <meredith at pintsize.com>
>Organization: PintSize Graphics & Web Hosting, Inc.
>To: "thelist at lists.evolt.org" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: [thelist] how the mighty have fallen
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>http://digitalmass.boston.com/news/daily/12/18/etoys.html
>EToys' survival as independent looks slim - Shares fall 70
>percent in a day
>
><tip type="domain registration scam">Apparently some company
>called Global Electronic Domain Registration Monitoring or
>some such is faxing domain registrants with urgent warnings
>that someone is trying to register their .com domain in some
>other variant (e.g. .net). The fax is one of those
>marketing department specials where they add a bunch of
>official-looking numbers and barcodes and crap. The text
>claims that someone has applied to register your .net or
>whatever is open but you have first right of refusal, and
>they say that you have 24 hours to contact them and register
>the domain yourself. Of course, they're happy to provide
>registration services to you, since they did bother to warn
>you and all.</tip>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 22
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:36:55 -0500
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: Frank <framar at interlog.com>
>Subject: [thelist] CF: What's that tag?
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>I remember reading about a tag that will allow a search engine to
>crawl a database through URLs, but for the life of my can't find it
>on the devexchange or through the web. Can someone point me the right
>way?
>
>Thanks.
>--
>
>Frank Marion Loofah Communications
>frank at loofahcom.com http://www.loofahcom.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 23
>Reply-To: <seth at sethbienek.com>
>From: "Seth Bienek" <seth at sethbienek.com>
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] CF: What's that tag?
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:40:23 -0600
>charset="us-ascii"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Hey Frank,
>
>That's one of the functions of the FormURL2Attributes tag, which is
>associated with the Fusebox methodology. If you're not using Fusebox,
>you'll want to pare down that tag to only perform the URL functions. It's
>open source, and freely available at
>
>http://fusebox.org
>
>You can download the tag directly here:
>http://fusebox.org/files/tags/formurl2attributes.zip
>
>Regards,
>
>Seth
>
>------------------------------
>Seth Bienek
>Solutions Development Manager
>Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.
>972.455.7294 tel
>972.404.9754 fax
>------------------------------
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Frank
> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:37 PM
> > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > Subject: [thelist] CF: What's that tag?
> >
> >
> >
> > I remember reading about a tag that will allow a search engine to
> > crawl a database through URLs, but for the life of my can't find it
> > on the devexchange or through the web. Can someone point me the right
> > way?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> >
> > Frank Marion Loofah Communications
> > frank at loofahcom.com http://www.loofahcom.com
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > For unsubscribe and other options, including
> > the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to:
> > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
> >
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 24
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:40:43 -0500
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: Jacob Stetser <lists at icongarden.com>
>Subject: Re: [thelist] Common Fonts
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>That sounds great. I cringe when Arial is the first choice, but
>second choice with a Mac font in the first choice position works just
>peachy for me.
>
>Thanks for the link, btw. I thought I was the only one waging war
>against Arial as the primary font :)
>
>Jake
>
> >here's a page that goes into this problem in quite some detail --
> >
> > Improving Appearance of Arial Font on the Macintosh
> > (Solutions for both Mac Users and Web Developers)
> > http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/
> >
> >the solutions for web developers
> >(http://users.hit.net/~bobbau/platforms/MacArialFonts/#WebAuthors)
> >suggests that
> >
> > The best choice is therefore:
> > <FONT FACE="Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> > This way, the Mac users see Geneva, Windows users see
> > Arial, and UNIX users see Helvetica.
> >
> > As still another option, if you actually prefer the
> > appearance of "Verdana" (another sans-serif font), you
> > might specify:
> > <FONT FACE="Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica">
> > This way, Verdana is used if present (on either Windows
> > or Mac). If not, then Geneva is used on the Mac, Arial
> > on Windows, and Helvetica on UNIX.
> >
> >
> >rudy.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------------
> >For unsubscribe and other options, including
> >the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to:
> >http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
>
>--
>=================================================
>Appreciation is a wonderful thing; it makes what is excellent in others
>belong to us as well. -Voltaire, philosopher, historian, satirist,
>dramatist, and essayist (1694-1778)
>=================================================
> icongarden.com || littleblueeasy.com :: emailme at icongarden.com
>=================================================
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 25
>Reply-To: <seth at sethbienek.com>
>From: "Seth Bienek" <seth at sethbienek.com>
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] CFREPORT, the 'TYPE' attribute & Crystal Reports 8
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:51:48 -0600
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>Hey Dan,
>
>This bug is documented by seagate at:
>http://support.seagatesoftware.com/library/kbase/articles/c2006853.asp
>
>The Allaire article you mentioned is at:
>http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=16758&
>
>The issue will be corrected in ColdFusion 5.0, but for now (other than the
>"type" workaround), your only option is accessing the Crystal Reports 8
>"Report Design Component" COM object via CF's CFOBJECT tag, which is more
>feature-rich anyway.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Seth
>
>------------------------------
>Seth Bienek
>Solutions Development Manager
>Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.
>972.455.7294 tel
>972.404.9754 fax
>------------------------------
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Dan Slater
> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:55 PM
> > To: 'thelist at lists.evolt.org'
> > Subject: [thelist] CFREPORT, the 'TYPE' attribute & Crystal Reports 8
> >
> >
> > Okay,
> >
> > I'm nearing 'gasket popping' levels of frustration here.
> >
> > 1. Allaire creates cfreport tag for interfacing with crystal reports.
> > Allaire continues to patch/update/repair the tag as needed as new
>versions
> > of Crystal Reports are released.
> >
> > 2. Crystal reports 7 does not allow connectivity to SQL databases
> > using the
> > 'standard' edition.
> >
> > 3. I upgrade to Crystal Reports 8 Professional edition.
> >
> > 4. Crystal Reports 8 is no longer compatible with Cold Fusion's cfreport
> > tag.
> >
> > 5. Allaires KB says to use the undocumented 'type' attribute and assign
>it
> > the value of "Microsoft".
> >
> > 6. Nada. Zilch. Zippo. Less than zero.
> >
> > 7. Crystal Reports Technical support states that they "do not support
> > crystal reports used in conjunction with Allaire's Cold Fusion
>"cfreport"
> > tag" and that for technical support I should contact Allaire.
> >
> > 8. Since allaire already has a KB article stating their
> > 'workaround' (which
> > by the way does not work) - and Seagate says it's not their problem -
>I'm
> > left holding the bag - so to speak.
> >
> > 9. Argh?
> >
> > Does anyone out there have any experience with this issue?
> > Does anyone out there KNOW someone with experience on this issue?
> > Has anyone out there gotten the TYPE="Microsoft" attribute to
> > actually WORK?
> >
> >
> > Please help a fellow developer out - before his head explodes. Thank
>you.
> >
> > Dan Slater
> > CF Developer
> > www.buxtonco.com
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > For unsubscribe and other options, including
> > the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to:
> > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
> >
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 26
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:50:03 -0500
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>From: Frank <framar at interlog.com>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] CF Freebie
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > As a side note to this, everyone who runs IIS and CF (or
> > ASP) should check to make sure they are not vulnerable
> > to the ::$DATA or +.htr hack. To check, go to any CF
> > page (or ASP), like www.myserver.com/foo.cfm, and add
> > ::$DATA or +.htr to the end of the URL. If the CF(ASP)
> > source code shows up, your vulnerable.
>
>Is there are central repository of this sort of thing, with the known
>fixes?
>--
>
>Frank Marion Loofah Communications
>frank at loofahcom.com http://www.loofahcom.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 27
>Reply-To: <seth at sethbienek.com>
>From: "Seth Bienek" <seth at sethbienek.com>
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: RE: [thelist] CF Freebie
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:12:28 -0600
>charset="us-ascii"
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>HI Frank,
>
>For ColdFusion, see http://allaire.com/security, and you can sign up for
>the
>free notification service (which rules) at:
>http://www.allaire.com/developer/securityzone/NotificationService.cfm
>
>For Microsoft IIS, check out:
>http://microsoft.com/technet/security/web.asp
>which includes some handy utilities you can use to help secure your IIS
>installation, etc.
>
>Also, I would check out ANY OS/Software you are using or are thinking about
>using here:
>http://astalavista.box.sk/
>Astalavista is a search engine for security-related info. Note that though
>the organization professes to be completely "white hat", or legit, there
>may
>be some links to sites hosted by hackers, skript kiddiez, or other "black
>hat" elements, so reasonable caution should be excersized, though
>ultimately
>there's nothing like finding out the latest exploits straight from the
>horse's mouth.
>
>There are a number of other security sites out there, notably
>http://l0pht.com, and most software used on the Internet will have some
>place on the ol' company website specifically dedicated to "security
>issues".
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>
>Seth
>
>------------------------------
>Seth Bienek
>Solutions Development Manager
>Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.
>972.455.7294 tel
>972.404.9754 fax
>------------------------------
>
>
> > Is there are central repository of this sort of thing, with the
> > known fixes?
> > --
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 28
>From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:35:08 -0500
>Subject: Re: [thelist] how the mighty have fallen
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > From: Meredith Tupper <meredith at pintsize.com>
>
>2 responses, one to the post, one to the tip...
>
> > http://digitalmass.boston.com/news/daily/12/18/etoys.html
> > EToys' survival as independent looks slim - Shares fall 70
> > percent in a day
>
>[thelist] The Bigger They Are ... a $22 Million Internet Disaster
>http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20001002/004377.html
>
>obviously etoys isn't typical of that rant, but let's not forget all the
>lawsuits
>they waged against etoy... so, no pity here...
>
> > <tip type="domain registration scam">Apparently some company
> > called Global Electronic Domain Registration Monitoring or
> > some such is faxing domain registrants with urgent warnings
> > that someone is trying to register their .com domain in some
>[...]
>
>a very good article about this, with some handy links...
>
>Domain Name Ripoff Alert - EDNM
>http://evolt.org/article/Domain_Name_Ripoff_Alert_EDNM/25/3594/evolt.org
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
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