| on page three there are some typical maximums for the height, and for | 800x600 this looks like it's around 390, which you exceed by over 70 pixels Crap. Assuming I want to keep the dimensions (the client has something he wants in the middle frame (343) - I assume it's a graphic - that should scroll, and should the whole thing, if poss.). The other frames are mine - mostly for navigation and banner ads. So, what can I do? I don't think he'd mind much if the user had to scroll to see the guff that will be cut off at the bottom (I think it will be a banner ad, so it might even help his cause - nobody likes banner ads :) Could I throw the whole shebang into a scrolling frame, the width and height of the window? Is that technically possible (although probably not pretty)? Or am I up the creek without? m.