[thelist] Table Problem

martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com
Thu Jan 11 05:19:34 CST 2001

Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Hi Tijs

That kind of worries me. Because the longer developers maintain
the mindset of "I'm not bothered about standards until all the browsers
and dev tools support them all", the longer the vendors will be able
to justify the approach of "Our customers don't want them" and
not build standards-compliant tools and browsers.

It's a chicken and egg situation. And the only way out of it is to
influence the bits we can ie the sites we build. (oh and lobby
MS, NS, Adobe & Macromedia with the message that these
things matter)


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Browsers are not W3C compliant so my code isn't either ;-)

But I must admit your solution serves both purposes.

Hi! i'm new to this list, sorry if i start off a bit harsh...


> >
> >This usually works since the form now falls 'outside of the
> >document flow'.
> And outside specification. :) If you run a page with the code above through
> the W3C validator, it will throw a long list of errors all related to those
> two tags.
> Brent, since you only have one form on this page, you can put the
> <form></form> pair outside the first table like this:
> <body>
>  <form>
>   <table>
>    [...buncha stuff...]
>   </table>
>  </form>
> </body>
> It collapses that cell around your <input> and validates as well.
> http://www.asd.k12.ak.us/testbed/site_map.html
> (There are a some other issues with that page concerning validation,
> too...mostly lack of "alt" attributes for you <img> tags.)
> Good luck,
> David
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