[thelist] RE: Request for critique with url this time
Kira Kariakin
kirakar at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 6 02:18:39 CDT 2001
Hi, Henk
I saw your site and is Ok for a first one.
Apart of the cross browser compatibility on the 4.x browsers that you are
already aware the only details I see are:
-The rollover doesn't work on the inverse way. I mean if you go with your
mouse over the top buttons nothing happens down on the labels of the links.
-A principle in design is that the viewer always see first the top of the
page or screen that is reading, is important that you label the top buttons
because for a larger page nobody will be oriented through the site at a
first glance. For people that doesn't have a big screen and use all the bars
and menus on their browsers, or 640x480 resolution because of some visual
limitation, is also the same.
Whether you like or not they are some Jakob Nielsen principles that you have
to follow for a better usability on any site.
I couldn't see the detail of the white line on N6. But just in case if you
use a transparent gif to be precise in your width and height of the cells if
you don't put border="0" on the img tag will be giving you that look on NN.
To achieve the orange line you can nest tables
for the content and give to the outside one bgcolor="#[orange]" on the table
tag and 1px cellpadding, containing the other one with the content with a
cellpadding and cellspacing on 0. You'll achieve the look in both browsers
but the CSS can become buggy if you nest to much tables as well. Is a matter
of an almost never-ending story of coding and testing until is satisfactory.
Will be something like this:
<table bgcolor="#" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td>
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>[content]</td></tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
For the content you can use the padding on the <p> tag or cells to make the
space between the content and the orange border.
I hope this will be useful for you in the future.
On the other hand congratulations for your new born web site. Is always very
exiting to launch the first. :-D
Kirakar
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Kira Kariakin de Ayala
Web Designer
e-mail: kk at kirakar.com
url: http://www.kirakar.com
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1. RE: <cferror> and NT/Unix differences (Benekli)
2. Fwd: Automatic error messages in NN4 (Peter-Paul Koch)
3. RE: Fwd: Automatic error messages in NN4 (jeff)
4. Contract Jobs in the Netherlands? ([mister jaimz])
5. Request for critique with url this time (Henk van den Bor)
6. HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/ i-link/lan error??????? (deike
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7. Re: HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/
i-link/lan error??????? (s t e f)
8. RE: HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/ i-link/lan e
rror??????? (Jesus G. Gorriti)
9. Re: BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation? (Norman Beresford)
10. Debut site-critique requested (mashkin at themail.com)
11. Re: is Access enough? (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
12. Re: Quick way to import tables from Word/Excel
UNFORMATTED? (Tamara Abbey)
13. RE: BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation?
(martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
14. RE: is Access enough? (Mike Hardaker)
15. Re: Best Book for PHP4.0 (Manish Sharma)
16. Re: Is there an Internet style guide? (Manish Sharma)
17. Re: submit button not working with enter (Manish Sharma)
18. Re: Perl Regex (Manish Sharma)
19. RE: Debut site-critique requested (Alastair Murdoch)
20. Re: what do you use to create code from layout? (matthew garrett)
21. OT - NT Error Codes (Salvatore Palmisano)
22. RE: submit button not working with enter (Ornstein, Ian)
23. Datagate Connector (Angeles, Michael (Michael))
24. Re: Request for critique with url this time (Rebekah Murphy)
25. RE: Industry Associations (Kathleen Heytink)
26. Re: Member directory?? (Olly Hodgson)
27. Re: what do you use to create code from layout? (Sam-I-Am)
28. RE: <cferror> and NT/Unix differences (scott.brady at homeqonline.com)
29. Re: Member directory?? (Miriam Frost)
30. Boston area get togther (Michael McGlynn)
31. RE: BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation? (Luther, Ron)
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From: "Benekli" <benekli at benekli.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] <cferror> and NT/Unix differences
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:09:27 -0400
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On the Unix box, make sure the file is named Application.cfm, with a capital
A.
Benekli01:09A05IV2001
<->After doing some testing, it appears that, on the Unix box, when the
application
<-> encounters an error, it's like it ignores everything that came before it
(such
<->as the cferror
<->tag), so all that is displayed is the Cold Fusion error message (in the
default
<->format).
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Message: 2
From: "Peter-Paul Koch" <gassinaumasis at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 07:53:31 -0000
Subject: [thelist] Fwd: Automatic error messages in NN4
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I just read this on another mailing list: How to make sure NN4 opens the
JavaScript console when it encounters an error. Tested on WinNT: works!
>1.Quit Netscape if it is running.
>2.Find the prefs.js file. It will be in a subdirectory of the directory
>where
>you installed
> Netscape. Look in the user subdirectory, and in any subdirectories of
>that.
>3.Make a copy of the prefs.js file (just in case!).
>4.Open the prefs.js in a text editor such as Notepad.
>5.Add the following line to the bottom of the file:
>
> user_pref("javascript.console.open_on_error", true);
>
>6.Save the file.
>7.Restart Netscape.
>
>This method doesn't work in Netscape 6 - I haven't found any way to have
>the
>console pop up automatically in 6.
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From: "jeff" <jeff at members.evolt.org>
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Subject: RE: [thelist] Fwd: Automatic error messages in NN4
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:08:02 -0700
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ppk,
:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: From: Peter-Paul Koch
:
: I just read this on another mailing list: How
: to make sure NN4 opens the JavaScript console
: when it encounters an error. Tested on WinNT:
: works!
:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
more information about this particular technique and much more:
http://evolt.org/article/js_debugging/17/472/
.jeff
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:06:56 +1000
From: "[mister jaimz]" <jaimz at zip.com.au>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Contract Jobs in the Netherlands?
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Hi all, and apologies if this is off topic.
I'm moving to the Netherlands for several months and I've got myself a
Working Holiday visa.. now I need to find myself some work. Can anyone
recommend either a good recruitment agency, or, preferably, a good design
studio who are looking for a coder.
As far as qualifications go, I eat, sleep, think and dream in ASP, DHTML,
VBScript, JavaScript, SQL, Stored Procedures and CSS. I'm creative too -
I've been working with a design team for the past year or so creating web
sites and web applications.
Thanks,
Tom.
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From: "Henk van den Bor" <Henk.Bor at hetnet.nl>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:49:29 +0200
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Subject: [thelist] Request for critique with url this time
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I guess giving you a url would have been a good idea, sorry about that.
Here it is www.hetgeheel.nl
Hello everyone,
i've been lurking in the digest shades for a month now and would like to say
thank you for all the usefull information you all so generously share this
way..cheers.
i am in the last stage off my first ever site and would appriciate some
'pro'
comments on my debut.( as shy as any debutant about this post aswell )
www.hetgeheel.nl
The site is in dutch so i don't expect many off you can read it, you will
have
to trust me on it being informative.
Known unsolved problem in NS 4.75 (so probably 4.x aswell) i get a 'gap'
below
the buttons, I think it's something in the padding_ top set for the table
below
it (css)
NS 6.0- in the top and bottom menutables I see 2 or 3(depending on which
page)
1px wide white vertical-lines that I have not been able to get rid off,
anyone
have this problem before ?
Another question: is there a way to put all the DW javascripts in a external
.js
file? I fooled around with it, but it did not seem to work. Or did I miss
something (jd?)
Tnx, Henk
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From: "deike schulz" <deike.schulz at getthere.nl>
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:52:46 +0200
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Subject: [thelist] HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/ i-link/lan
error???????
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Hi there,
I'm working with Photoshop 6.0 on a Sony Vaio/windows 2000 nt, with i-link
port and I'm connected to a local area network (lan)..
Everytime after connecting my video-cam via i-link I get major problems with
Photoshop....who starts really, really slow...or won't start at all...(even
after not using the video-cam/i-link port for days)
When I switch off the LAN connection everything is fine again...
If there is someone who experienced this kind of problem or knows how to
solve this *$!%^*...please contact me.......
Thanx in advance,
Deike Schulz
-> deike.schulz at getthere.nl
-> www.getthere.nl
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Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:29:01 +0200
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: s t e f <stef at nota-bene.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/
i-link/lan error???????
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
[sender: deike schulz || date: 10:52 05/04/2001 +0200]
>Hi there,
>I'm working with Photoshop 6.0 on a Sony Vaio/windows 2000 nt, with i-link
>port and I'm connected to a local area network (lan)..
>Everytime after connecting my video-cam via i-link I get major problems
with
>Photoshop....who starts really, really slow...or won't start at all...(even
>after not using the video-cam/i-link port for days)
>When I switch off the LAN connection everything is fine again...
>If there is someone who experienced this kind of problem or knows how to
>solve this *$!%^*...please contact me.......
In my company we seem to have problems with PS6 on the network. Usually I
save files locally, work on them, and then use the Explorer to put them
back in place... I don't know if it's because of my Os (WinMe) or because
of something weird on Ps6's part...
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From: "Jesus G. Gorriti" <Jesus.Gorriti at iconmedialab.es>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/ i-link/lan e
rror???????
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:31:34 +0200
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
PhotoShop 6.0 screws your network connections.
There is an update to 6.0.1 at
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/880e.htm
for windows
And here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/880a.htm
for mac
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>From: s t e f [mailto:stef at nota-bene.org]
>Sent: jueves, 05 de abril de 2001 11.29
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: Re: [thelist] HELP!...Photoshop 6.0/windows 2000 nt/
>i-link/lan
>error???????
>
>
>[sender: deike schulz || date: 10:52 05/04/2001 +0200]
>>Hi there,
>>I'm working with Photoshop 6.0 on a Sony Vaio/windows 2000
>nt, with i-link
>>port and I'm connected to a local area network (lan)..
>>Everytime after connecting my video-cam via i-link I get
>major problems with
>>Photoshop....who starts really, really slow...or won't start
>at all...(even
>>after not using the video-cam/i-link port for days)
>>When I switch off the LAN connection everything is fine again...
>>If there is someone who experienced this kind of problem or
>knows how to
>>solve this *$!%^*...please contact me.......
>
>In my company we seem to have problems with PS6 on the
>network. Usually I
>save files locally, work on them, and then use the Explorer to
>put them
>back in place... I don't know if it's because of my Os (WinMe)
>or because
>of something weird on Ps6's part...
>
>
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From: "Norman Beresford" <n.beresford at anansi.co.uk>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:26:30 +0100
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Hi Ron
Other people have already pointed out how to get round the script.timeout
problem. Something which I'd suggest doing is taking a look at the HTML that
you're producing. If you've got the whole recordset appearing within one
table then be aware that some browsers will not display the page until the
closing table tag has been received. I recently had a problem with a client
complaining that a page was taking too long to display. After tweaking the
ASP (mainly using .getrows) I altered the HTML, so that each row was it's
own table, rather then being part of a larger uber-table. That way each
record gets rendered as it arrives in the browser, making it feel as if the
whole page was appearing a lot faster (although there wasn't any actually
difference in overall speed to display). And as a side benefit you'll get
around any possible limitations on row numbers in tables in HTML.
HTH
Norman
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From: mashkin at themail.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:03:22 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Debut site-critique requested
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Hi everyone,
this is my first site and I would appreciate any help and suggestions. I'm
very new to a web design and been studying hard and with pleasure. I come
from Slovakia but currently living in Spain.
Thanks to all of you who have shared so many opinions and information in
this list. It helped me a lot and I hope that one day, I'll be able to share
and provide useful information and help as well.
My final project for Macromedia course:
http://wihw.isportsdot.com
Thanks a lot to all of you,
have a great day :-)
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:20:58 +0100
Subject: Re: [thelist] is Access enough?
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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Sounds about right - my wife does customer segmentation
for a large assurance company and I seem to remember her
having million record datasets.
Of course, it takes a wee while to do data transformation on it...
although I dare say that Rudy's voodoo skills might cut that
down a bit.
Cheers
Martin
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i don't have a reference, but i seem to recall that access can handle 4
gigabytes
and i personally have had an access 97 database with almost a hundred
tables, the largest with 300,000 rows...
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Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:14:05 -0500
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From: Tamara Abbey <Abbey at abbeyink.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Quick way to import tables from Word/Excel
UNFORMATTED?
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>[...]
>However, we have a large number of tables containing all sorts of data,
>mostly in Word. I know that I can get word to save as an HTML, but it adds
>huge amounts of unnecessary code, mainly <span> and style="" which I then
>need to get rid of to apply the site CSS styles.
>
>I have Homesite, but even when I drag and drop into the HS design view I
get
>extraneous coding. I believe Dreamweaver 4.0 has a tabular data import from
>a tab delimited file - no formatting attached, but it seems a bit excessive
>to get it just for this!
Try importing it into HomeSite (not the design view) and then stripping the
tags out. Check the code sweeper settings and sweep it. It should come
close but you'll probably have to go back and add your css.
It probably won't be completely clean, but it should work a little better.
<tamara />
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:31:02 +0100
Subject: RE: [thelist] BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation?
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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And this is what non-parsed headers are for. Essentially, the server
will send out the HTML as it gets it, rather than waiting for it all back
from
the db, working out how big it is and so on.
I've got an old CGI emailmerge script which works like this - because
sending out emails isn't going to be fast enough, it generates a report
while it's doing it, 100 (or so) records at a time.
Cheers
Martin
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if it's "IE timed out trying to open the page" that means that the script
is
taking so long to do something without sending any output to the browser
that the browser "gives up" thinking maybe the server died. If that's the
case, the solution is to put something in your loop that occasionally sends
SOMETHING to the browser (even an empty comment) so that the browser
doesn't
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From: "Mike Hardaker" <mike at angloinfo.com>
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Subject: RE: [thelist] is Access enough?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:44:06 +0200
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Yeah - caching makes *such* a difference.
Neraly all of AngloINFO runs from an Access backend, with 250,000 page views
a month. And (barring a couple of areas in the online admin section)
*everything* is cached, mostly using arrays in one form or another.
Of course, the databases aren't huge (a couple of Mb)...
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AngloINFO
www.angloinfo.com (Web)
wap.angloinfo.com (WAP)
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> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] is Access enough?
>
>
> I use Access for Death Clock, which doesn't have a large amount
> of data, but
> does have a large amount of traffic. Of course, I cache the _hell_ out of
> the data, so I only hit the back end when I absolutely have to.
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From: "Manish Sharma" <msharma at cityonlines.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Best Book for PHP4.0
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:51:18 +0530
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The Wrox Professional PHP Programming is actually geared towards PHP3 (Like
it doen't mention the foreach loop) but its a very thorough book in many
senses. Its chapters on LDAP, Image manipulation, MySQL excellent.
I've also found "MySQL" by Paul Du Bois terrific.
Hope this helps
Manish
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http://www.simplygraphix.com - Extreme Design
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From: Bill Abel <bill at youngmindsfreshideas.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: RE: [thelist] Best Book for PHP4.0
>I started with the O'reilly book entitled "MySQL & mSQL". It's a good
>starting point. "PHP for the World Wide Web: Visual Quickstart Guide" is
>probably another good starting point.
>
>http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/msql/
>
>http://www.peachpit.com/books/catalog/72787.html
>
>
>
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>> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
>> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tony Crockford
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:23 PM
>> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> Subject: [thelist] Best Book for PHP4.0
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Seeking help from the wise ones, a PHP newbie steps up to the stand and
>> asks:
>>
>> what's the best book for understanding how/why etc of PHP and MySQL
>> combinations.
>>
>> So many of the tutorials and manuals assume *soooo* much prior
>> knowledge.
>>
>> Ideas anyone?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
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From: "Manish Sharma" <msharma at cityonlines.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Is there an Internet style guide?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:35:50 +0530
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Hi Alex, http://www.webopedia.com should be helpful.
Regards
Manish
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Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:52 PM
Subject: [thelist] Is there an Internet style guide?
>Is there an standard on whether
>"e-mail" or "email" is the correct
>spelling?
>
>I prefer "email," but I want to make
>sure that it's acceptable, and I'd like
>to find a list of standards for Internet
>words.
>
>Are there any respectable style guides
>out there?
>
>thanks,
>
>- Alex
>
>
>
>
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Message: 17
From: "Manish Sharma" <msharma at cityonlines.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] submit button not working with enter
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:07:22 +0530
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I guess the focus is set to the hiden field when you press enter, correct me
if I am wrong.
Regards
Manish
Manish Sharma
Simply Graphix Pvt. Ltd.
http://www.simplygraphix.com - Extreme Design
http://www.fontmagic.com - Largest True Type Fonts Directory on the Internet
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hall <m_d_hall at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:10 AM
Subject: [thelist] submit button not working with enter
>
>
>I have the fallowing form:
>[form method="post" action="pics.php"]
>Enter one keyword, or 'all' for all the Pictures.[br]
>[input type="Text" name="search" value=""]
>[input type="hidden" name="start" value=0]
>[input type="submit" name="submit" value="Search"]
>[/form]
>
>now when I enter something in to the text area and hit enter the page
>reloads but it doesn't work, when I click the button everything works
right.
>Can anyone point out what I'm missing?
>
>the page is at http:\\www.campmeriwether.com/pics.php
>
>Thanks
>-Mike
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Message: 18
From: "Manish Sharma" <msharma at cityonlines.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Perl Regex
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:02:27 +0530
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Mathew, thank you thank you thank you!
Thanks to all :-)
regards
manish
Manish Sharma
Simply Graphix Pvt. Ltd.
http://www.simplygraphix.com - Extreme Design
http://www.fontmagic.com - Largest True Type Fonts Directory on the Internet
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Fischer <mfischer at e-fishsolutions.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [thelist] Perl Regex
>On 4/4/01 at 9:29 AM, Manish Sharma <msharma at satyam.net.in> wrote:
>
>> What's the best Perl Regex that matches HTML tags in a line?
>
>
>$string = "<TITLE>Test title</TITLE>";
>$string =~ s/<[^>]+>//g;
>print "$string";
>
>Result:
> "Test title"
>
>The expression matches all occurrences of a "<", followed by one or more
characters that aren't a ">", followed by a ">". If you don't have the "g"
at the end, it will only match the first occurrence.
>
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Message: 19
From: "Alastair Murdoch" <alastair at mtbtuned.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Debut site-critique requested
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:03:25 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Only immediate suggestion would be to make your bottom navigation bar a
table and use text links. It could look almost exactly the same and would
be a bit quicker to load (overall load time not too bad on a 56K). Also a
minor point, but some of the text on the left hand menu looks a little
'untidy'. Try using the anti-alias options (presuming you used fireworks).
You might also want to make the flash intro automatically take you into the
site after a few seconds. It's not immediately obvious that you have to
click on the puck.
other than that, well done
cheers
-------------------------------
A l a s t a i r M u r d o c h
c o n s u l t a n t @ c u b e
[t:] 01292 27 00 99
[m:] 07974 323 551
[w:] www.cubeit.co.uk
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:46:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [thelist] what do you use to create code from layout?
From: matthew garrett <matthew.garrett at snet.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: zac <zac at pixelgeek.com>
> Do you use it?
>
> If you use it and you like it and it doesn't piss you off then what
> difference does it make what other people think?
>
> Its a tool. If it suits your needs then it suits your needs. End of story.
Hi. I'm here to learn.
I've previously heard DW being abused as a horrendous text editor, so I was
just curious about what the issues are (or were). There's also the angle of
letting people know that it might be a tool worth using - which is what was
being discussed.
That's all. I don't need or seek any validation of my personal working
techniques - which vary from sensible and efficient, to obscure and
difficult.
matt
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Message: 21
From: "Salvatore Palmisano" <spalmisano at usaiss.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:43:24 -0400
charset="US-ASCII"
Subject: [thelist] OT - NT Error Codes
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
A diligent search of MSDN and Technet didnt yield anything, so it made sense
to pick the brains of the evolt gurus...here goes.
I have a scheduled task (the MSIE task scheduler) that refuses to execute
when scheduled, but WILL execute if I right click on it and select 'Run'.
The status shows 0x80 instead of a 0x0 (successful).
The permissions are correct, the batch file being called works fine, and if
invoked manually it runs fine.
Ive even tried removing the task and creating one from scratch; nothing
doing.
Anyone know what these status codes mean?
Thanks.
--Salvatore Palmisano
Chief Information Officer
International Security Solutions, Inc.
spalmisano at usaiss.com
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Message: 22
From: "Ornstein, Ian" <IanOrnstein at NC.SLR.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] submit button not working with enter
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:00:19 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I suspect that if you remove the submit button
it will work correctly with the Enter key.
To achieve the behaviour you requested see
http://developer.irt.org/script/682.htm
HTH
Ian Ornstein - Programmer and Web Developer
IBM Global Services, Global AMS Delivery
(704) 509-8022
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Message: 32
From: "Michael Hall" <m_d_hall at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 03:43:13
Subject: [thelist] submit button not working with enter
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
<snip>
[input type="submit" name="submit" value="Search"]
[/form]
now when I enter something in to the text area and hit enter the page
reloads but it doesn't work, when I click the button everything works right.
Can anyone point out what I'm missing?
the page is at http:\\www.campmeriwether.com/pics.php
Thanks
-Mike
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Message: 23
From: "Angeles, Michael (Michael)" <angeles at lucent.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:10:44 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] Datagate Connector
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Anyone have any experience with Datagate Connector <http://datagate.co.uk>
-- the groupware application? I am attempting to install on Mac OS
X/Apache/MySQL and keep getting 500 errors at the /dgcbin/dgc URL. Thought
it might be a problem with my ScriptAlias, but I'm pretty sure I have
httpd.conf configured correctly. Know of any common reasons for getting 500
errors that may help clear my muddied head?
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:30 -0400
Reply-To: Rebekah Murphy <bekah at nightvisions.com>
From: Rebekah Murphy <bekah at nightvisions.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Request for critique with url this time
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Henk wrote:
> I guess giving you a url would have been a good idea,
> sorry about that.
> Here it is www.hetgeheel.nl
Design crit only, since I can't read dutch.
First off, I have a personal aversion to the font
"Comic Sans", it strongly affects my opinion of a
site. Overall, between the choice of colors and the
choice of font, my feeling of the site is "cute". I
picture the audience being talked down to in a
subtle, soothing, patronising way. Again, I have no
idea what this site is about.
The design is put together nicely, although the buttons
are vauge, there is a message in the status bar,
and additional plain text links, so even if the
visitor doesn't mouse over a button, they will be able
to navagate. If I was working on this site, I would want
to link the rollover effects of the bottons and
their corosponding text links, to show they are conected.
Also, the round bottons show some faint borders. It
looks like they were aliased against the light peach
color, then a darker color was used.
As I get into the main parts of the site, the use of
Comic Sans is overwhelming. I could look past it to
a certain degree on the index page because there was a
small amout. As the main font for the site the
psychological reaction is quite strong. I feel as if
someone is insisting a speaking to me in baby talk.
As to the gap you are noticing in netscape, it is because
of this:
<td width="16%">
<div align="center">code snipped
for space</div>
</td>
Netscape interprets the hard return between the table
cell contents and the end tag as a space. You will need
to change all such TD's to look like this:
<td width="16%">
<div align="center">code snipped
for space</div></td>
With the </TD> tag right up against the content.
-Bekah
-
http://NightVisions.com *** Web Design and Renovation
http://nightvisions.com/homepage - Portfolio
http://nightvisions.com/ooey_gui - Icons
http://nightvisions.com/personal - Personal
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Message: 25
From: Kathleen Heytink <K_HEYTINK at winebow.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Industry Associations
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:13:47 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Dexter [mailto:sgd at ti3.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:42 PM
> To: 'thelist at lists.evolt.org'
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Industry Associations
> so, ah, what part of the world you in? I garuntee thar be
> evolters near
> you....
>
Thought I said - Northern New Jersey
Kath Heytink
Web Designer
Winebow, Inc
www.winebow.com
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Message: 26
From: "Olly Hodgson" <gnarly at punkass.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Member directory??
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:24:04 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel J. Cody" <djc at starkmedia.com>
> Thanks for bringing this up Tamara.. Now that I know someone is
> interested in seeing that kind of stuff, I will get something together,
> ok? <hint> Thats really all it takes to get a new evolt feature people,
> really :) </hint>
Ah well, in that case can we have a tip harvest search facility? :-)
Nothing fancy, just a keyword search box on
http://lists.evolt.org/index.cfm/a/harvest/
Cheers,
Olly
- www.furrybastards.com -
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Message: 27
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:35:33 -0500
From: Sam-I-Am <sam at sam-i-am.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] what do you use to create code from layout?
<236FAD0A6BB3F549BB9AB39FF2520CA6047AAF at localserver.office.applicor.com>
<5.0.2.1.0.20010404112313.00a03ec0 at mail.abbeyink.com>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
On this topic, does anyone have a TIDY config file that they swear by?
I'd really like to batch tidy html, with reasonable confidence that it
wont screw up my layouts etc. like does it drop </td> onto a new line?
thanks
Sam
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Message: 28
From: scott.brady at homeqonline.com
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:35:18 -0700
Subject: RE: [thelist] <cferror> and NT/Unix differences
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
The file does have a capital A, but we're actually using FuseBox and have
the
cferror code in app_globals.cfm
Scott
"Benekli" <benekli at benekli.net> on 04/04/2001 10:09:27 PM
On the Unix box, make sure the file is named Application.cfm, with a capital
A.
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Message: 29
From: "Miriam Frost" <miriam at dynagirl.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Member directory??
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:38 -0500
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Milwaukee would be a natural for Beervolt....
Miriam M. Frost
information architecture / design
http://www.walthers.com
414 . 527 . 0770 x 3434
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Message: 30
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:53:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael McGlynn <blastronaut at excite.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Boston area get togther
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
hI,
How about a Boston area meet? If there is interest, email me offline ,
blastronaut at excite.com.
Suggested topic, "Trends in Web Development in the 'New' Economy" and
thoughts on the next five years in Boston area IT.
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
michael mcglynn
interface designer
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
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Message: 31
From: "Luther, Ron" <Ron.Luther at COMPAQ.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] BIIIIIG tables - HTML or ASP Limitation?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:52:59 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi Folks,
Many Many Thanks for the tips and ideas!!
Script Timeout:
Ryan, Nicole, Scott and other folks pointed out the script timeout parameter
as a good place to start looking and tweaking. Yep, that IS a good place to
start looking. I'm not sure how much 'control' I have over that here but
it's certainly an area that I can suggest be more fully investigated.
However, I'm thinking Tab and Martin are more on track here -- I think the
browser is timing out because it thinks the connection has been lost. {Sorry
Nicole - my bad - I should have noted that I'm not getting any error message
at all .... it just seems to drift off and be 'lost in space'. In my haste,
I forgot that the lack of any error message is, in itself, a diagnostic hint
to what is going on. Oooops.}
Paged Recordsets:
Nicole and Tab reminded me about paged recordsets. Good point. I wasn't
thinking they could be used for this particular application ... but that
most likely means I'm locked into "one way" of thinking on this project and
I should probably think through the entire application again 'cuz I might
have missed some potential alternatives. Rats!
Non-Parsed Headers / Buffer Flushing:
Martin, Tab - I think you two hit the nail on the head ... I think it's a
browser "timeout" instead of a script "timeout" and that flushing the buffer
at the record level would be a good thing to try.
Multiple Tables:
Norman - cool idea! ... Yeah, it adds some "bloat" ... and it will probably
play bloody hell with the 'homegrown com object' we have to allow user
export of tables to Excel ... but even if I don't use it here I'm sure it
will come in handy on some other project ... thanks!
I thought about this driving around last night and this morning. I think
I've got three alternatives to look into:
(a) [Least Effort] - I'll see if flushing the buffer at the record level
takes care of the problem.
(b) [More Effort] - Suppose the non-parsed headers work and retrieve all the
rows to the page. What's the user going to do next? (sigh) Export the
results to Excel. .... so I was wondering (while driving around) if I could
flush a continuation dot [Those "Waiting ........" dots.] to the browser
after every thousand records processed while I write a CSV file containing
the data. After the data is written I could flush a "Click here to see the
results" link to the browser, tear down the connections and close the buffer
and the users could pull up the results in Excel. {Next step might be
having the IM guys "schedule" a nightly job to populate that CSV and merely
keep the link in the report.}
(c) [Different Approach] - This is for an Intranet. I have one of those
"Enterprise Intranet reporting tools" in my toolbox. The 'look and feel'
would be a little different - but it wouldn't time out, it would return BIG
recordsets, and it would give the users comparable functionality. {... and
the client has "okayed" this as a fallback position ...}
Thanks Again!!!
RonL.
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Message: 32
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:59:25 -0700
From: Megan Holbrook <meganwh at mediaone.net>
Reply-To: megan at kapow.com
Organization: kapow, inc.
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Member directory??
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I second that! In fact, we *do* have something like that - the eInnovate
group here has started a Purely Networking Night at the Milwaukee Ale
House. The next one is, I believe, on the 26th of April. You should
come, if you haven't been to one already. More information will be
available on www.eInnovate.org soon.
There are also two list servs in Milwaukee, eInnovate at topica.com and
milw-WIT at topica.com (the local Women In Technology chapter). To
subscribe to either: send an email to eInnovate-subscribe at topica.com or
milw-WIT-subscribe at topica.com.
:) M.
Miriam Frost wrote:
>
> Milwaukee would be a natural for Beervolt....
>
> Miriam M. Frost
> information architecture / design
> http://www.walthers.com
> 414 . 527 . 0770 x 3434
>
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