[thelist] RE: XML - XSL conversion: not working?

Tim Kuhn Marla Adams timmarla1 at home.com
Sat Jul 7 22:53:30 CDT 2001


Dante, I am not in the profesion yet so this may be a weak answer but I have
had all sorts of problems with Wrox's XLST. I think that the problem all
lies in either the syntax of their namespaces or the namespace itself. If
you use their namespace try appending 'version="1.0"' on the end of it. Or
the other method that has worked for me is to use the namespace
"http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl". I hope that this helps.

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Today's Topics:

  1. RE: liability and the web (Martin)
  2. turn the cursor into an arrow on an <area> with an href (Joe Crawford)
  3. Re: A linkchecking program for Macintosh? (Joe Crawford)
  4. RE: DSN Less to DSN (XML thanks to all) (Robert Goodyear)
  5. RE: turn the cursor into an arrow on an <area> with an href (.jeff)
  6. RE: ColdFusion and PhP (Mia Kurt)
  7. new to list (webmaster)
  8. XML -  XSL conversion: not working? (dante)
  9. IE on Windows 2000 display problems (Brad Miller)
  10. RE: IE on Windows 2000 display problems (Brad Miller)
  11. Re: My very first site check! (Peter Van Dijck)
  12. Re: My very first site check! (webmaster at menouno.com)
  13. Re: A linkchecking program for Macintosh? (david braun)
  14. cable internet and web TV (Marcus J. Coles)
  15. Re: A link checking program for Macintosh? (Mark Rogers)
  16. Re: cable internet and web TV (aardvark)
  17. Re: My very first site check! (Marc Seyon)
  18. [ASP] Database update email notification (Tyme)
  19. RE: IE on Windows 2000 display problems (Joel D Canfield)
  20. RE: IE on Windows 2000 display problems (Bill Haenel)
  21. RE: cable internet and web TV (Daniel S. O'Shea)
  22. Copy of list (Eveline Vanhemel)
  23. Re: [ASP] Database update email notification (Anthony Baratta)
  24. RE: [ASP] Database update email notification (Scott Dexter)
  25. Re: [ASP] Database update email notification (Richard Bennett)
  26. Re: cable internet and web TV (G at rry)
  27. Re:A linkchecking program for Macintosh? (Eveline Vanhemel)
  28. Re: Copy of list (rudy)
  29. Re: ColdFusion and PhP (Christine Korza)
  30. Re: ColdFusion and PhP (Scott Brady)
  31. Re: ColdFusion and PhP (Richard Bennett)
  32. Re: ColdFusion and PhP (Martin)
  33. Re: ColdFusion and PhP (Martin)

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Message: 1
Subject: RE: [thelist] liability and the web
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:55:42 +0100
From: Martin <martin at members.evolt.org>
To: "thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

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>This article doesn't help to answer my question. I am not trying to scam
>anyone. I just don't want to be left holding the ball when the sh!t hits
>the fan.

Sorry, it was following up the point about shrink wrap software
licenses being tantamount to "We sold you a bag o' shite and it's
not our problem any more".

Cheers
Martin

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:26:26 -0700
From: Joe Crawford <jcrawford at avencom.com>
Organization: AVENCOM: http://www.avencom.com/
To: "evolt.org's \"thelist\"" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: [thelist] turn the cursor into an arrow on an <area> with an href
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Okay - tough one.

I have an imagemap with some dynamic menus - like this:

<img map="#foo">

<map name="foo">
<area
	coords="0,0,100,100"
	shape="rect"
	href="etc.html"
	onmouseover="showMySpecialMenu('nav_etc')"
	onclick="return false;">
</map>

What I want to do is to have the cursor *not* turn into a hand on the
link. How do I approach turning the cursor into an arrow? I tried
including a style attribute to the <area> tag, and tried creating a
function like this:

I also tried style="cursor: nw-resize" as the <area>.

function showArrow() {
	if(document.getElementById){
	document.style.cursor = 'nw-resize';
	}
}

then putting that in the onmouseover. I don't like having an <area> not
be a link  - but I just want to know how I'd do it.

The tutorials on the web all address how to manipulate the cursor with
simple styles - but none cover imagemaps, or doing it selectively.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks!
	Joe <http://artlung.com/>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:30:42 -0700
From: Joe Crawford <jcrawford at avencom.com>
Organization: AVENCOM: http://www.avencom.com/
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] A linkchecking program for Macintosh?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Joe Crawford wrote:
> A partner (a marcomm/graphic design co.) of ours has need of a
> linkchecking program - something to run down broken files, links, the
> usual.
>
> The caveat is that it must run on Macintosh, and *must* be able to work
> on local files. Mac OS9 is what they're using.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Adam S. over on webdesign-l provided this - and it looks diddly dang
good. I passed it to the client and they're trying it out.
http://www.vse-online.com/link-tester/index.html

I'm gonna try it at home - linklint (a perl script) has gotten too long
in the tooth to be useful.

	- Joe <http://artlung.com/>
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.....  mailto:jcrawford at avencom.com \\ http://www.avencom.com
.... San Diego \\ CA \\ USA \\ AVENCOM: Set Your Sites Higher

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:19:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Goodyear <rob_goodyear at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Rob_Goodyear at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [thelist] DSN Less to DSN (XML thanks to all)
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I use an include file so I can make global changes to the db connection. I
also set a
variable in the include that tells the application what type of db it is
(Access vs. SQL)
so I can do if...then branches for query syntax accuracy.

/rg


--- sgd <sgd at ti3.com> wrote:
>
> > I just finished an E-commerce site and I do have a problem...
> > The whole site was developed as a DSN Less site and I am now wondering
> > how to convert it to DSN and secure the e-store properly.
>
> Not really a security issue, unless you're exposing the connection string
to
> the browser er something. --Citing performance as the reason is debatable
> (I've seen good arguments on both sides), but I'd say going to a DSN is a
> Good Thing, simply because of the management (centralized).
>
> > Does it involve a lot of changes to the code? Do I have to have any
> > information provided by the host?
>
> Oh! You're hosted --you may be hosed. Your host will have to set up the
DSN,
> and they may or may not want to do that. Yer gonna hafta check with them.
> Also keep in mind that depending on the kind of DSN set up and how your
host
> has got things configured, /other people/ hosted there may have access to
> it. I've not gone down the road of setting up an MS-based ISP like this,
so
> I'm not sure of all the implications, but I'd get a super-dude at your ISP
> on the phone and ask him/her 'bout it. (Yes, paranoia is a good thing)
>
> Hand-waving aside-- I'd throw the connection string into your global.asa's
> Application_OnStart routine, setting an Application scope variable to it,
> and go home for the day.
>
> sgd


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Message: 5
From: ".jeff" <jeff at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] turn the cursor into an arrow on an <area> with an
href
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:51:00 -0700
charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Joe,

:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: From: Joe Crawford
:
: Okay - tough one.
:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

actually kind of easy -- it doesn't appear to be supported.  *grin*

:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: The tutorials on the web all address how
: to manipulate the cursor with simple styles
: - but none cover imagemaps, or doing it
: selectively.
:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

through experimentation, i found the only way to override the cursor was on
the image that's used as the image map.  if you set the cursor property
there it will change it from a hand to whatever you've set it to.  i could
not find a way to change it either through scripting or style properties for
each <area>.

good luck,

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 21:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mia Kurt <miakurt at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I have to make decisions on PhP and ColdFusion.
I am not getting it - why is ColdFusion talked about
so much in the web developement world?
What are the benefits of using PhP?

Is ColdFusion doing something different to other
products (it's competitor).

I am not joking as I am asking for your help.

Thank you.

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 23:47:56 -0500
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: webmaster <webmaster at cyberdzyns.com>
Subject: [thelist] new to list
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hello everyone:

We are new to the list and after what we read on the website,
  we are *really* looking forward to being a part of the community at
evolt.org.

Thank you,
Robert&Darla
Authors and Founders
CyberDzyns WebDesign and Marketing Company
http://www.cyberdzyns.com/


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Message: 8
From: "dante" <dante at vianet.net.au>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 13:58:52 +0800
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] XML -  XSL conversion: not working?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I've been spending some time now trying  to get this XSL to work & I'm
stumped.
It's based on a style sheet from the Wrox press book Professional XSL.
Using the Saxon parser recommended by Wrox it returns an empty html file.
Using  IE5.5 the html components work but the XML data isn't being
displayed.

It's online at my site:
http://www.vianet.net.au/~dante/concepts/concepts.html

Any ideas?

Thanks,
            Oliver Reid
            ICQ: 16291443
            dante at vianet.net.au
            www.vianet.net.au/~dante




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Message: 9
From: "Brad Miller" <brad at beldamar.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:51:56 -0700
charset="us-ascii"
Subject: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I am having an issue with displays in IE version 5.50.4522.1800 on Windows
2000.
This is the latest updated version from the MS site for 5.5 on Win2k.
I am having problems with space appearing between my images when loading the
pages.
If you minimize the browser and then maximize, the spaces go away. But if
you reload/refresh the page they come back.
I have had 5 other people test this on Win2k with the same browser updates
and it happens on their machine too.
Also it is happening on the latest version of IE on Mac as well.


I tested in IE5.0, NN4.3 and NN6.0 on Win2k and everything looks good.
If anyone can test on latest rev of IE on 98 or ME I would appreciate it.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this or is this just a fault in the
browser?

Here is the link.
http://www.dejapc./CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com


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Message: 10
From: "Brad Miller" <brad at beldamar.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:58:48 -0700
charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Sorry the correct link is
www.dejapc.com/CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com

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[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Brad Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:52 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems


I am having an issue with displays in IE version 5.50.4522.1800 on Windows
2000.
This is the latest updated version from the MS site for 5.5 on Win2k.
I am having problems with space appearing between my images when loading the
pages.
If you minimize the browser and then maximize, the spaces go away. But if
you reload/refresh the page they come back.
I have had 5 other people test this on Win2k with the same browser updates
and it happens on their machine too.
Also it is happening on the latest version of IE on Mac as well.


I tested in IE5.0, NN4.3 and NN6.0 on Win2k and everything looks good.
If anyone can test on latest rev of IE on 98 or ME I would appreciate it.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this or is this just a fault in the
browser?

Here is the link.
http://www.dejapc./CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com


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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 09:36:11 +0100
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Peter Van Dijck <peter at vardus.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] My very first site check!
<p04330100b7689fdedfdc@[212.229.49.71]>
<a05100e11b76b9881fef2@[24.6.124.169]>
<3B45F0E5.9060304 at starkmedia.com>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


> > http://icongarden.com/

Very nice, I really like it. Only thing: you only have one case study (on
the homepage), I would like to see a link to the site and a case study page
with a few screenshots of front end AND the backend...
Good luck in Boston!
Peter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://liga1.com building multiple language/culture websites
http://cms-watch.com content management systems beta
http://xmliseasy.com beta


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Message: 12
From: webmaster at menouno.com
Organization: menoUNO Comunicazione
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:53:18 +0200
Subject: Re: [thelist] My very first site check!
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi Jacob;

> http://icongarden.com/

I like the site, even if fontsize is a bit too small. (Opera 5.12
WIN). One minor thing: I would add a clear="all" after the first item
on the homepage, because on a window wider than 870px the Boston
headline moves up, beside the ANA screenshot

ciao


Massimo

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Message: 13
Date: Sat,  7 Jul 2001 14:02:06 +0200
From: david braun <david.braun at centralnet.ch>
Subject: Re: [thelist] A linkchecking program for Macintosh?
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

On 06.07.2001 at 10:14 Uhr, jcrawford at avencom.com (Joe Crawford) wrote:

> A partner (a marcomm/graphic design co.) of ours has need of a
> linkchecking program - something to run down broken files, links, the
> usual.
>
> The caveat is that it must run on Macintosh, and *must* be able to work
> on local files. Mac OS9 is what they're using.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>

then there's BBEdit, with built-in functionality, and Dreamweaver with
the same feature, even a bit more useful (hit cmd-F8 and see)

plus, there was a shareware-application, called "url-manager" or thelike...

both are relating the links to a "local site root", so you'll have to
make sure you've set those settings...

hth

david

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Message: 14
From: "Marcus J. Coles" <mar at asitis.co.uk>
To: "Thelist at Lists. Evolt. Org" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:20:18 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] cable internet and web TV
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone had any views on content for cable tv etc.
I've nearly always stuck to using 580 wide table as the base of pages,
mostly because I never liked the 'portal' principle (too much info freaks me
out) and you are guaranteed that it will print fine on an A4 page from both
NN and IE and also because I think people who are looking for info on the
web are probably doing something else in another window.   But now I've just
realised that these sites also display well on ntl's cable internet here in
th UK.  So as I said I wondered if anyone had any views on content for same
and any knowledge of the restrictions that cable decoders may have on
content, they dont render flash yet thats for certain ...and also what of MS
webTV as its not in the UK as far as I know ...

Thanks

Mar


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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 07:53:50 -0700
From: Mark Rogers <mrogers at ocis.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: [thelist] Re: A link checking program for Macintosh?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

> A partner (a marcomm/graphic design co.) of ours has need of a
> linkchecking program - something to run down broken files, links, the
> usual.
>
> The caveat is that it must run on Macintosh, and *must* be able to work
> on local files. Mac OS9 is what they're using.

Try Big Brother or VSE Link Tester.

Mark Rogers


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Message: 16
From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:39:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [thelist] cable internet and web TV
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

> From: "Marcus J. Coles" <mar at asitis.co.uk>
[...]
> wondered if anyone had any views on content for same and any knowledge
> of the restrictions that cable decoders may have on content, they dont
> render flash yet thats for certain ...and also what of MS webTV as its
> not in the UK as far as I know ...

i can't address the euro ones, but i can point you to WebTV's
developer center:
http://developer.webtv.net/

and yes, WebTV supports Flash 3, but not streaming...


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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 12:26:55 -0400
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Marc Seyon <seyon at delime.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] My very first site check!
<018101c1040f$a82b11e0$e6a0b3c7 at iibiz>
<p04330100b7689fdedfdc@[212.229.49.71]>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi Jacob,

Looks good. I think you need to check a few grammatical things on the 'who
we are' page though.

(I) wrangles, (I) programs, (I) dabbles, (I) understands are a few. There
may be others. It looks like you pulled it from something previously
written in third person and forgot to change some of the verbs.

regards.
-marc


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Message: 18
Reply-To: "Tyme" <nopun at bellsouth.net>
From: "Tyme" <nopun at bellsouth.net>
To: "Evolt" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 13:04:56 -0400
Organization: No Pun Productions
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] [ASP] Database update email notification
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hello.  New to this list. In advance, thank you for your help.

OBJECTIVE: Want to send email notification to a recipient list when a
particular database (sql7) table has been updated.  (Thought that I'd try a
simple solution first.)

PROBLEM: The message does not appear to be sent.  (I have even tried
hardcoding in the ASPMail values.)  Any ideas?

ATTEMPTED SOLUTION: Thought that I could just tack on a little ASPMail code
after the objRS.Update and even have the body of email notice built from the
submitted form.
 Am using an ASPMail script that I am successfully using on
another site to send an order form to Vendor.  (Difference is working script
case: nothing is being recorded in a database.)  Also, I am referencing an
article about email notification, but trying to apply it to my existing
code.

APPLICABLE CODE (from processing page):

  objRS.AddNew
  objRS("ann_type") = Request.Form("AnnType")
  objRS("ann_date") = CDate(Request.Form("AnnMonth") & "/" &
Request.Form("AnnDay") & "/" & Request.Form("AnnYear"))
  objRS("ann_time") = CDate(Request.Form("AnnHour") & ":" &
Request.Form("AnnMin") & " " & Request.Form("AnnAmPm"))
  objRS("ann_desc") = ReplQuote(Trim(Request.Form("AnnDesc")))
  objRS("ann_moreinfo") = Trim(Request.Form("AnnMoreInfo"))
  objRS.Update

...

objRS.Close
Set objRS = Nothing
objConn.Close
Set objConn = Nothing

     if mailComp = "ASPMail" then
       set mailObj = Server.CreateObject("SMTPsvg.Mailer")
       mailObj.FromAddress = fromAddr
       mailObj.RemoteHost  = smtpServer
       mailObj.ReplyTo = replyTo
       for each addr in Split(recipients, ",")
         mailObj.AddRecipient "", Trim(addr)
       next
       mailObj.Subject = subject
       mailObj.ContentType = "text/html"
       mailObj.BodyText = body
       if not mailObj.SendMail then
         SendMail = "Email send failed: " & mailObj.Response & "."
       end if
    end if


The ASPMail variables above are derived from the Add Form thusly:

   referers   = Array("www.mydomain.com")
   mailComp   = "ASPMail"
   smtpServer = "mail.hostserver.com"
   fromAddr   = "tyme at co.brunswick.nc.us"

<input name="_recipients" type="hidden" value="tyme at no-pun.com">
<input name="_replyToField" type="hidden" value="Email">
<input name="_subject" type="hidden" value="Brunswick County Emergency News
Update">
<input name="_requiredFields" type="hidden"
value="AnnType,AnnMonth,AnnDay,AnnYear,AnnHour,AnnMin,AnnAmPm,AnnDesc,AnnMor
eInfo">
<input name="_envars" type="hidden" value="HTTP_REFERER">
<input name="_fieldOrder" type="hidden"
value="AnnType,AnnMonth,AnnDay,AnnYear,AnnHour,AnnMin,AnnAmPm,AnnDesc,AnnMor
eInfo">
...




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Message: 19
From: "Joel D Canfield" <joel at spinhead.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:23:31 -0700
charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

just a suggestion: put each graphic in a separate table cell, instead of
using <br>s to separate them. Also, make sure the closing </td> is on the
same line as the cell contents. Although browsers allegedly ignore
whitespace like newlines, it's not always true.

spinhead

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From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Brad Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:59 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems


Sorry the correct link is
www.dejapc.com/CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com

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From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
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Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:52 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems


I am having an issue with displays in IE version 5.50.4522.1800 on Windows
2000.
This is the latest updated version from the MS site for 5.5 on Win2k.
I am having problems with space appearing between my images when loading the
pages.
If you minimize the browser and then maximize, the spaces go away. But if
you reload/refresh the page they come back.
I have had 5 other people test this on Win2k with the same browser updates
and it happens on their machine too.
Also it is happening on the latest version of IE on Mac as well.


I tested in IE5.0, NN4.3 and NN6.0 on Win2k and everything looks good.
If anyone can test on latest rev of IE on 98 or ME I would appreciate it.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this or is this just a fault in the
browser?

Here is the link.
http://www.dejapc./CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com


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Message: 20
From: "Bill Haenel" <bill at webmarketingworx.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:24:41 -0400
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I am using IE 5.5 on Win98 at home and on Win2K Pro at work, and have seen
this effect since I started using Win2K. Do not get the same on any of my
sites at home on my Win98 machine.

You're not crazy. It's got to be a bug.

Bill Haenel
Canton, NY

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From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Brad Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 3:52 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] IE on Windows 2000 display problems


I am having an issue with displays in IE version 5.50.4522.1800 on Windows
2000.
This is the latest updated version from the MS site for 5.5 on Win2k.
I am having problems with space appearing between my images when loading the
pages.
If you minimize the browser and then maximize, the spaces go away. But if
you reload/refresh the page they come back.
I have had 5 other people test this on Win2k with the same browser updates
and it happens on their machine too.
Also it is happening on the latest version of IE on Mac as well.


I tested in IE5.0, NN4.3 and NN6.0 on Win2k and everything looks good.
If anyone can test on latest rev of IE on 98 or ME I would appreciate it.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this or is this just a fault in the
browser?

Here is the link.
http://www.dejapc./CD/

Thanks,
Brad Miller
702-438-7660
www.rapidfx.com
www.beldamar.com
www.dejapc.com


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Message: 21
From: "Daniel S. O'Shea" <doshea at surfree.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] cable internet and web TV
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:38:18 -0400
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Don't forget those super 'little' computers that the masses (housewives?)
are buying up, the 'i-openers' and such.

My concern has always been javascript. Those 'little' computers don't
recognize it. Must stick with scripting server-side, as vbscript works okay
as long as it's called from the server.

Dan O.

>you are guaranteed that it will print fine on an A4 page
> from both
> NN and IE and also because I think people who are looking for info on the
> web are probably doing something else in another window.   But
> th UK.  So as I said I wondered if anyone had any views on
> content for same
> and any knowledge of the restrictions that cable decoders may have on
> content, they dont render flash yet thats for certain ...and also
> what of MS
> webTV as its not in the UK as far as I know ...
>


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Message: 22
From: "Eveline Vanhemel" <eveline_vanhemel at pi.be>
To: "EVolt MailingList" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:57:37 +0200
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] Copy of list
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi all,

for some reason, I didn't receive Vol 1 #1465 of the list, could someone
forward it to me, please?

TIA,

Eveline
eveline_vanhemel at pi.be



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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 13:45:08 -0700
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Anthony Baratta <Anthony at Baratta.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] [ASP] Database update email notification
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

At 10:04 AM 7/7/2001, you wrote:

>APPLICABLE CODE (from processing page):
>
>      if mailComp = "ASPMail" then
>        set mailObj = Server.CreateObject("SMTPsvg.Mailer")
>        mailObj.FromAddress = fromAddr
>        mailObj.RemoteHost  = smtpServer
>        mailObj.ReplyTo = replyTo
>        for each addr in Split(recipients, ",")
>          mailObj.AddRecipient "", Trim(addr)
>        next
>        mailObj.Subject = subject
>        mailObj.ContentType = "text/html"
>        mailObj.BodyText = body
>        if not mailObj.SendMail then
>          SendMail = "Email send failed: " & mailObj.Response & "."
>        end if
>     end if

I believe you can not have a blank recipient field. Try this instead:

        for each addr in Split(recipients, ",")
          mailObj.AddRecipient Trim(addr), Trim(addr)
        next
---
Anthony Baratta
President
Keyboard Jockeys

Blatant Plug: Cool Jazz for a hot summer,
     http://LisaMarie.Baratta.com


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Message: 24
From: Scott Dexter <sgd at ti3.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] [ASP] Database update email notification
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:56:35 -0500
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


> PROBLEM: The message does not appear to be sent.  (I have even tried
> hardcoding in the ASPMail values.)  Any ideas?

 is mail.hostserver.com real? Do you get any errors?

-- mail.hostserver.com may be preventing relaying, is that your local ISP?

sgd

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Message: 25
From: "Richard Bennett" <mail at richardinfo.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] [ASP] Database update email notification
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:54:51 +0200
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


> Blatant Plug: Cool Jazz for a hot summer,
>      http://LisaMarie.Baratta.com
>
Just a few things I noted about this otherwise very nice site:

The main background image tiles,which  looks strange at 1280*960, this can
stopped for dom browsers by putting
background-repeat: no-repeat;
in the <body>style tag.

The music samples don't play, they all give a "RealPlayer is unable to
connect" or "the specified server is unable to connect" error.

Richard.


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Message: 26
From: "G at rry" <garrywa at crosswinds.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] cable internet and web TV
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:00:26 +0100
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Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I have been thinking about this too of late as my bro has just had the NTL
service installed.  I'm over there later this week and have put up a
detector to find out what I can, it's at
http://www.stratford-london.co.uk/garrywa/linx/detect.html , if anyone can
give me any other bits of code I can use for detection I would be most
greatful (or point out any mistakes in my code :-) )  and I'll let anyone
who is interested have the results.  I think this is going to become quite a
large audience and it would be useful to know what it's capable of.

As for WebTV, there is a developers forum and info site at
http://developer.webtv.net/ and it claims to support flash !

Interestingly, I have the WebTV viewer,
http://developer.webtv.net/design/tools/viewer/ , on my WinBox and it has an
option for NTSC or PAL (PAL is higher definition and so has a larger display
area), although it regularly lock up in PAL.

Garry


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Message: 27
From: "Eveline Vanhemel" <eveline_vanhemel at pi.be>
To: "EVolt MailingList" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 23:10:47 +0200
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] Re:A linkchecking program for Macintosh?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi Joe,

I would go for Macromedia Dreamweaver...:-))

Eveline
eveline_vanhemel at pi.be

Joe wrote:

>A partner (a marcomm/graphic design co.) of ours has need of a
linkchecking program - something to run down broken files, links, the
usual.


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Message: 28
From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
To: "evolt thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Copy of list
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:26:01 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

> for some reason, I didn't receive Vol 1 #1465 of the list,
> could someone forward it to me, please?

hi eveline

sorry, i cannot, but until someone else does, i would like to point out
that you can catch up by reading the archives online

yes, i know that's not the same as receiving a digest -- bouncing around an
archive is frustrating (to me anyway), since even if you view them in date
sequence, you won't really see them in date sequence even if you keep
clicking the Next Message link...

<tip type="wrench shoulder patting self on back">
visit the archives regularly? use a bookmarklet
see http://evolt.org/article/thelistbookmarklet/17/706/evolt.org
where you can test it
</tip>

use 20010702 for the current archive

thelist posts appear in the archive within minutes of being sent

very handy if you are away from your main computer


rudy



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Message: 29
From: "Christine Korza" <evolt at tipsbyemail.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:18:18 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Mia,

Here are my personal opinions on this matter. I develop in both platforms
for different reasons.

My personal favorite is PHP. PHP gives you complete control, down to line
breaks and HTTP headers, of your source code and page. You can easily spout
out HTML to the receiving browser by using an 'echo' command, or by popping
out of PHP, typing plain 'ol HTML', then go back to PHP for more processing.

Cold Fusion, however, tries to be more idiot-proof. It's very useful if you
plan to upgrade or change your database. You specify your database and its
login information in one 'administrative' area for the server, then you can
reference it easily on any page. The nice thing about this is if you change
databases, for example, from Access to Ms SQL, you hardly have to touch your
pages to get it to work! Also, Coldfusion is built on tags, similar to HTML.
You might type a tag and a couple parameters, but on the browser's source
code on the receiving end, it's changed your code into correct HTML. In some
ways, this is a big plus.

Still, I prefer PHP. I like having line-by-line control of everything the
receiving browser will see and do. It's a little more difficult, because you
have to learn syntax for various functions, while with ColdFusion, the
syntax is generally a string of tags just like HTML.

Should I even mention the cost differences? PHP is FREE, open source. While
I'm not sure the cost of Coldfusion, the cost is in the $1000's... easily
sticking ColdFusion out of the reach of the casual webmaster.

At any rate, I hope this helps. This is just my personal opinion, so feel
free to contradict me. :)

-Christine Korza
crimsonNOSPAM at protonic.com
Administrator, Developer:
www.protonic.com
www.tipsbyemail.com
www.ftp-now.com
www.javascriptsucks.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Mia Kurt <miakurt at yahoo.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP


> I have to make decisions on PhP and ColdFusion.
> I am not getting it - why is ColdFusion talked about
> so much in the web developement world?
> What are the benefits of using PhP?
>
> Is ColdFusion doing something different to other
> products (it's competitor).
>
> I am not joking as I am asking for your help.
>
> Thank you.
>
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Message: 30
From: "Scott Brady" <evolt at scottbrady.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 16:31:47 -0600
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> I'm not sure the cost of Coldfusion, the cost is in the $1000's... easily
> sticking ColdFusion out of the reach of the casual webmaster.

If you have your own dedicated server, perhaps.  But I think the "casual
webmaster" is more likely to use a shared host, in which case the costs are
much cheaper.  My host's basic price is $20/month (which gives me a lot of
things, but no SQL Server.  That's a $50/month plan, I believe).

You can develop on your home machine for free (you can get a single license
version of Cold Fusion, and you don't NEED CF Studio.  you can use Notepad,
if you want).

Scott

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http://www.scottbrady.net/


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Message: 31
From: "Richard Bennett" <richard.bennett at skynet.be>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 00:41:22 +0200
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi,
I haven't actually used Coldfusion, as it's on my list of "tools to avoid",
alongside with WYSIWYG html editors like Dreamweaver,  Frontpage or
Homesite, activeX pluggins, Frontpage extensions, client-side vb-script, and
visual Interdev to name a few.

The reason being that these are tools that hide the real workings of the
webpage, making things simple to start off with, but you're not really
learning anything about what's really going on, so if something goes wrong
you're out of your depth pretty fast.

I'm not saying you can't use these, but a good basis in PHP, ASP,
javascript, and a little Perl will get you a long way, and in most cases
it'll be a lot easier to debug your script when something goes wrong.

Cheers,
Richard Bennett





----- Original Message -----
From: "Mia Kurt" <miakurt at yahoo.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: 07 July, 2001 06:09
Subject: RE: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP


> I have to make decisions on PhP and ColdFusion.
> I am not getting it - why is ColdFusion talked about
> so much in the web developement world?
> What are the benefits of using PhP?
>
> Is ColdFusion doing something different to other
> products (it's competitor).
>
> I am not joking as I am asking for your help.
>
> Thank you.
>
> __________________________________________________
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Message: 32
Subject: Re: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 00:01:53 +0100
From: Martin <martin at members.evolt.org>
To: "thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

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Christine Korza wrote on 7/7/01 11:18 pm

>Should I even mention the cost differences? PHP is FREE, open source. While
>I'm not sure the cost of Coldfusion, the cost is in the $1000's... easily
>sticking ColdFusion out of the reach of the casual webmaster.

But hosting costs will be about the same as the USP is "Reasonably
robust database connectivity".

I would expect CF to have a more robust security model (don't
know PHP well enough, but if I was Allaire/MM I'd be very keen
to have this), so risk-based pricing would suggest that CF hosting
might be a bit cheaper.

In each case, the capital cost of a CF server license to a sizable hosting
company is negligible compared to the variable costs involved.

Cheers
Martin

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Message: 33
Subject: Re: [thelist] ColdFusion and PhP
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 00:03:49 +0100
From: Martin <martin at members.evolt.org>
To: "thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Richard Bennett wrote on 7/7/01 11:41 pm

>The reason being that these are tools that hide the real workings of the
>webpage, making things simple to start off with, but you're not really
>learning anything about what's really going on, so if something goes wrong
>you're out of your depth pretty fast.
>
>I'm not saying you can't use these, but a good basis in PHP, ASP,
>javascript, and a little Perl will get you a long way, and in most cases
>it'll be a lot easier to debug your script when something goes wrong.

But Richard, don't all those other things abstract the actual workings
too? Hell, even SQL's an abstraction layer, and every layer of the
TCP/IP stack is an abstraction layer.

Now if you're writing on the lowest levels of the TCP stack in *binary*,
that's a bit different - how *do* those gosh-darned electrons get about
anyway?

Cheers
Martin

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