neal, > So Billy (gates) allows me to create these WMV files that > i would rather turn into mpegs or rp or avi > anything more common > Any suggestions. Have a look at Pinnacle Systems Studio 7 [1]; or if you want the version that comes with a FireWire card, Studio DV 7 [2]. James Aylard 1. http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=469 2. http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=470