[thelist] Seeking web based user management for ftp

[Minh Tran]

Hi Martin,
thanx for the advice. I kind of figured i need to go do some free work,
funny thing is we aren't allowed to actually do free work. Thats part of uni
life for ya. From what our uni advisor has told us, since the industrial
training is actually part of our degree (worth 10 credit) it has to be paid
work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin" <martin at members.evolt.org>
To: "thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [thelist] Seeking web based user management for ftp


> Minh Tran wrote on 1/8/01 6:13 am
>
> >does anyone know where i can get paid industrial training???
> >i've looked everywhere and all people want is experience
>
> It's the 'paid' bit that I think is holding you up.
>
> Traditionally in craft industries like this one, you got
> into it through one of 3 means:
>
> 1) Working at something vaguely related and there's
>     no-one else to do the work, so you teach yourself.
>     By the time you're ready to do it fulltime, you have
>     lots of experience in a commercial environment
>
> 2) You start as a freelance (which is pretty good
>     for *ahem* enhancing what you do on a daily basis),
>     with no paid work, and do stuff for free until you
>     have a portfolio good enough to convince paying
>     clients that you're worth a go
>
> 3) Variation on 1 - you've got enough client contacts
>     and skills and bullshit and image (=money) to convince
>     a client that it wouldn't be a problem for you.
>
> In each case, you start off with not officially being paid
> to learn, and gaining experience through your early work.
>
> It sounds like you're in case (2) (which is where I started
> some years back). Do work for free to get the experience.
> Do your own site - it still counts. Do sites for local charities.
>
> Oh, and talk about work under NDA which you can only hint
> about... (technically known as 'lying' but it gets you through
> in extremis, as long as you *can* do the work)
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
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