hi richard subtle humour for the web developer -- http://www.ecnet.net/users/gas52r0/Jay/ (some of the content is downright hilarious) not "bad" per se, just decidedly different -- http://superbad.com (not really sure how to describe this site) a resurrected old favourite, bud uglly -- http://wackyadvice.com/bud/home.html (warning, you may need ctrl-alt-del) design rant by eric raymond -- http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/html-hell.html (bad design without actual examples) rudy http://rudy.ca/