I owe a tip -- hope this is of value... <tip content = "identifying fonts"> From time to time, there is request on the list to help identify a font. DigitalWeb magazine http://www.digital-web.com/ listed two sites that might be helpful: http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ http://www.identifont.com/ </tip> Pat Meeks pat_meeks at hotmail.com