John, if yo mean just slap bang in the middle of the browser window with nothng else then try this: <html> <head><title>test</title></head> <body topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginwidth="0" mrginheight="0"> <table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=100% height=100%> <tr> <td align=left valign=center> YOUR FLASH MOVIE HERE </td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of john corry Sent: 25 October 2001 09:47 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] fluid valign="middle"... A colleague asked: "Is there a way to vertically center an image (in this case a flash animation) within a viewers browser window? This is the only thing on the page." I told him: Make a table with 1 row and 3 columns. Put the flash movie in the center column and a spacer .gif with a height of about 600px in one of the other columns. Align the table "center" and valign="middle" the cell with the flash movie. But that doesn't really put the movie in the middle of the browser window at any screen res or window size. I love all the tips I hear about fluid design but can't guess how to approach it (in a reliable, cross browser way) any better than the solution I proposed. How would you do it? thanks, John Corry --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !