http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098787,00.html "If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly." So much for the hope that MS wouldn't go towards an "IE only" web. Not that I use MSN.com, but how long till it happens on other MS sites like Hotmail, MoneyCentral, etc? *sigh* .djc.