Sorry, I didn't mean to bore the whole list with that last bit. <tip type="CSS" author="Bill Mason"> I just learned today that IE6 will still support scrollbar CSS in strict mode if the CSS is on the HTML tag, not the BODY. Up until now, I'd been assuming that in strict mode IE6 would ignore scrollbar CSS since it's non-standard CSS. Silly me! </tip> Bill Mason Accessible Internet evolt at accessibleinter.net http://www.accessibleinter.net/