[thelist] Jakob Nielsen [was Anti-aliasing]

[Jonas Bohlin]

>So yes, there is a role for Flash in information graphics (say to explain
>how
>an industrial process works), particularly where live interaction matters.
>but as standard interface? Rarely.

hmm...
In a way, I think we agree. I really didn't understand that the "other side"
(I guess my side) was arguing for flash as "standard interface" (jeez, I
wish I had followed this thread from the start...). Flash has its uses, and
can be used well by the right people.

>>You're obviously ranting.

>You're confusing me with Erik - I was asking a question. If there's an
>accurate, well-researched answer, I'd be genuinely keen to hear it.

Well, actually I'm not. I just had some issues with your approach that got
the better of me, sorry :)

I'm trying to defend the use of flash by appealing to its possibilities as
opposed to attcking it by giving examples of misuse.

>>btw, Flash 5 has an XML api (or whatever it is called). Didyaknowthat?
>See my earlier question. How often does it get used?

again... I'm trying to defend the use of flash by appealing to its
possibilities as opposed to attcking it by giving examples of misuse.

>I've never said "You have to do it like Jakob says", rather "You have to do
>it like Jakob says unless you can come up with compelling reasons why
>not to".
>Make the case.

The case?
I'll tell you one thing jakob is absolutely wrong about. so wrong he's off
the charts on any usability scale:
here it is:
People are not aware of the fact that long lines of text decrease their
reading ability. that goes for screen as well as paper.
generalization: Optimal line length for text is somewhere between 12-14
words.
Hence, never allow text to flow to the full width of the screen, as he does.
If everyone were to trust jakob on typography, peoples eyes would bleed.

>Absolutely. But it's up to good Flash developers to learn to present what
>they do as appropriate solutions to business and technical issues. Part of
>that is standing up and pointing at bad Flash work as such, rather than
>mindlessly defending the technology and attacking anyone who dares to
>criticise it.
>And I very, very rarely see that.

you're right, but there's a flipside to that coin. and right now, it's
spinning madly trying to keep up with us all :)

-jonas