Not to shove this out but we JUST had a conversation about this not more than a week ago. The beginning of it started out by someone trying to get "Advice on Getting That First Client" http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020506/112283.html It later turned into some pricing conversation: http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020506/112401.html - is one I posted about pricing http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020506/112403.html - a post from Ben Henick. Check those out and see if they answer some of your questions... --------------------------- Aaron Schaap www.theparagon.org