[thelist] Re: table spacing
Pons, Lisa (PONSLM)
PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU
Wed Jun 19 09:06:01 CDT 2002
I have noticed in Netscape 6, that I need to align the content of the cells,
to form a "block" that is, they must all be aligned left, top or right
bottom, or I get spaces....
Not sure if taht helps.
Lisa Pons
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1. Re: Spacing between tables (ryan manville)
2. RE: Site check request + blatant weblog promotion (Burhan Khalid)
3. Re: Spacing between tables (Samir M. Nassar)
4. Re: Tricky SQL (rudy)
5. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Joel Ricker)
6. RE: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Bob Boisvert)
7. Re: Tricky SQL (matt g)
8. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Joel Ricker)
9. RE: Tricky SQL (Chris Blessing)
10. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Joel Ricker)
11. RE: Tricky SQL (Jay Blanchard)
12. RE: Tricky SQL (Tom Dell'Aringa)
13. Re: FlashMX and Accessibility - "Could do better" (John Dowdell)
14. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Tom
Dell'Aringa)
15. Re: Close A Window from Another Window : oops (Arlen.P.Walker at jci.com)
16. closing a popup from a non parent window!! (4of4)
17. Re: Opening the users default Mp3 player (Benjamin C. Varadi)
18. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Joel Ricker)
19. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Joel Ricker)
20. Re: Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com (Ben Dyer)
21. off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (Tom Dell'Aringa)
22. RE: Site check request + blatant weblog promotion (Simon Willison)
23. RE: off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (Chris)
24. RE: off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (Tom Dell'Aringa)
25. MySQL Backup (Chris)
26. RE: off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (David Ulevitch)
27. RE: off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (Robert Goodyear)
28. RE: MySQL Backup (John Corry)
29. RE: MySQL Backup (Chris)
30. RE: off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky? (Tom Dell'Aringa)
31. Re: MySQL Backup (Hans Zaunere)
32. Number 2 and a site check? (Daniel Medley)
33. the order of code in html?(absolute div on top of div) (david currey)
34. RE: Yikes! Misbehaving machine - please help. (John Handelaar)
35. RE: Number 2 and a site check? (Mark Joslyn)
36. Re: the order of code in html?(absolute div on top of div) (Gary
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37. IE 6.0 + View Source (Mark Joslyn)
38. Re: IE 6.0 + View Source (Bob Haroche)
39. Re: Number 2 and a site check? (Daniel Fascia)
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Message: 1
From: "ryan manville" <ryan at ryanmanville.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Spacing between tables
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:23:32 -0700
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
By default the cellpadding and cellspacing default to 2.
So try adding the following attributes to both tables:
cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
//ryan
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: [thelist] Spacing between tables
: Hello All :
:
: What would be the best way to get rid of the space that appears
: between two tables?
: I've been wrestling with this for a while and nothing seems to
: work.
:
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: <tr>
: <td class="mnuTabSelected">Home</td>
: <td class="mnuTab">PHP</td>
: <td class="mnuTab">CSS</td>
: <td class="mnuTab">X-Plane</td>
: <td class="mnuTab">About Me</td>
: </tr>
: </table>
: <table width="100%">
: <tr>
: <td class="mnuTabContents">
: <a href="http://members.evolt.org/burhankhalid/">Home
: Page</a> |
: <a
: href="gateway.php?target=ev">Evolt.org</a> |
: <a href="gateway.php?target=sw">SWOSU</a>
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Message: 2
From: "Burhan Khalid" <burhankhalid at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Site check request + blatant weblog promotion
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:23:11 -0700
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> > Do you know of any other recommended ways of achieving a 2
> > column layout that will avoid this problem while still
> > resizing to fit
> > larger font sizes?
If you use percentage widths on DIVs it should resize. I think I'm
missing something here, are you talking about resizing the "box" or the
font?
--Burhan
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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [thelist] Spacing between tables
From: "Samir M. Nassar" <nassarsa at redconcepts.net>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: 18 Jun 2002 14:45:20 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Burhan,
IIRC, tables are block level elements. You might try absolutely
positioning them using CSS, or better yet, make them inline elements.
Otherwise you can make the tabs an unordered list and make the list and
<li>'s inline as well so they don't stack vertically, but align
horizontally.
Of course, all this depends on your audience.
Samir M. Nassar
RedConcepts.NET - http://redconcepts.net
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Message: 4
From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
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Subject: Re: [thelist] Tricky SQL
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:26:33 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> SELECT 'mens', score FROM soccer_mens
> WHERE gameDate = yesterday" to get
> UNION ALL
> SELECT 'womens', score FROM soccer_womens
> WHERE gameDate = yesterday" to get
> UNION ALL
> et cetera
feh
haste makes waste
see them typos above? edit them oot
you definitely want a union -- these tables should not be joined
rudy
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From: "Joel Ricker" <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:35:36 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
----- Original Message -----
> Err -- unless I'm missing something, the Home page is blank?
> --Burhan
Yes... basically if you are seeing three columns -- a menu bar on the left
and main section in the middle and a small one on the right then thats the
result I'm looking for.
I set this up a few days ago and it seemed to be working ok -- until I tried
Netscape4 which chokes on the style sheet so bad that it doesn't do anything
at all with it. I was hoping this is only a problem for that version and
that newer browser versoin would look work ok which I think I can live with.
Joel
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Message: 6
From: "Bob Boisvert" <webdad at tampabay.rr.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:34:38 -0400
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<snip>
> to hear input on how it renders in other browsers, especially
> Netscape4.5
> through Netscape6 and IE5-5.5.
</snip>
The pages seem to work OK but your prettyhipprogramming masthead is covering
the half of the clickchatsold image on the right.
Bob
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:38:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [thelist] Tricky SQL
From: matt g <mrg at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: Ken Kogler <ken.kogler at cph.org>
Hi Ken,
All the big-shots/smart-folks beat me to the answer, but I wanted to stress
this part.
Wouldn't you rather just have a DB where you could do this:
SELECT scores.score, teams.team
FROM scores, teams
WHERE scores.gameDate = yesterday
AND scores.team_id = teams.team_id
ORDER BY t.team ;
Even if the DB "gets big" with all the scores in one table, it was gonna be
big anyway (and a lot more spread out). This way, the database keeps
everything straight so that you don't have to use "Tricky SQL".
Maybe it's not that simple, but databases were *made* to do this stuff. And
I'm sure that you could get some good advice here on rebuilding the
structure, if you need it.
Matt g
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Message: 8
From: "Joel Ricker" <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:47:24 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: "Bob Boisvert" <webdad at tampabay.rr.com>
> The pages seem to work OK but your prettyhipprogramming masthead is
covering
> the half of the clickchatsold image on the right.
What browser version is this?
Joel
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Message: 9
From: "Chris Blessing" <webguy at mail.rit.edu>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Tricky SQL
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:44:37 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Rudy-
Is a union basically just like x + y + z as opposed to a x b x c?
Chris Blessing
webguy at mail.rit.edu
http://www.330i.net
> you definitely want a union -- these tables should not be joined
>
>
> rudy
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Message: 10
From: "Joel Ricker" <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:48:52 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> The pages seem to work OK but your prettyhipprogramming masthead is
covering
> the half of the clickchatsold image on the right.
Hah... I see what it is... you had a small browser window that I had been
using. I see exactly what you are talking about.
Thanks
Joel
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Message: 11
From: "Jay Blanchard" <jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Tricky SQL
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:45:56 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
[snip]
> "SELECT score FROM * WHERE gameDate = yesterday" to get
> all scores for all games played by all teams in all sports for yesterday.
presumably you want to search all tables, so use a union
SELECT 'mens', score FROM soccer_mens
WHERE gameDate = yesterday" to get
UNION ALL
SELECT 'womens', score FROM soccer_womens
WHERE gameDate = yesterday" to get
UNION ALL
et cetera
the literal in the result set tells you which table the row came from
[/snip]
You can tell by my LEFT OUTER JOIN 'solution' that i am thinking in MySQL
mode....no UNION available....yet :)
AACK!
Jay
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Tricky SQL
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > Once again, back asking for help... :)
> >
> > I've got multiple tables in the same database that are identical in
> > structure, but not in data. (this is a sports database, so the "men's
> > soccer" table is identical to the "women's soccer" table, yet they have
> > different data in the rows).
<SNIP>
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > -Ken
Ken, I'm no expert but I've had good luck with "intersection tables" for
this type of thing. For
example, if each GAME (mens, womens, whatever) made an entry into a table
(say GAMES) with a date,
you could then call all that information based on that table, since the game
entry would point an
ID back to the mens, womens soccer, tennis or whatever table - AND you could
call it by date.
For Example:
Mens Soccer table: Score, Date, MensID
Womens Soccer tbl: Score, Date, WmnsID
Intersection table: (games)
gamesID
Score
Date
OriginID (foreign key for inserting table (ie. mensID))
Make sense?
Tom
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:51:52 -0700
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: jdowdell at macromedia.com (John Dowdell)
Subject: Re: [thelist] FlashMX and Accessibility - "Could do better"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
At 9:58 AM 6/18/2, Martin Burns wrote:
> They may have sent out the detailed results - if so
> I'll post them.
Thanks, I'd like to learn more too. I've already got some notes up:
http://jdmx.blogspot.com/
Summary: The wee Player uses system-level assistive routines. I'm not sure
whether they tested JAWS 4.01, which does introduce some level of MSAA
support.
jd
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Joel,
If you didn't get this layout from bluerobot.com (looks like it) then head
over there. He has this
layout which is supposed to work in NS4 I thought..I use it at
www.pixelmech.com.
Tom
--- Joel Ricker <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Err -- unless I'm missing something, the Home page is blank?
> > --Burhan
>
> Yes... basically if you are seeing three columns -- a menu bar on the left
> and main section in the middle and a small one on the right then thats the
> result I'm looking for.
>
> I set this up a few days ago and it seemed to be working ok -- until I
tried
> Netscape4 which chokes on the style sheet so bad that it doesn't do
anything
> at all with it. I was hoping this is only a problem for that version and
> that newer browser versoin would look work ok which I think I can live
with.
>
> Joel
>
>
> --
> For unsubscribe and other options, including
> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
> http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
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Message: 15
Subject: Re: [thelist] Close A Window from Another Window : oops
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Arlen.P.Walker at jci.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:02:49 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Works fine in the parent window that created the popup, but when I link to
>another page and call the closeIT function the window is undefined?
>
>How can I close the same popup window in a window that did NOT create the
>popup?
You need to get the window reference over to the other window. You could
try a cookie or a CGI to do this, but maybe there's a Better Way?
Have fun,
Arlen
Chief Managing Director In Charge, Department of Redundancy Department
DNRC 224
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Message: 16
From: "4of4" <ryan at 4of4.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:00:49 -0700
Subject: [thelist] closing a popup from a non parent window!!
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I have this situation.
There is a popup window that launches when the page loads.
http://12.149.129.4/killPop/
These are my 2 functions for openeing and closing the window:
function popUp(url) {
sealWin=window.open(url,"win"
,'toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizab
le=1,width=500,height=45
0');
self.name = "mainWin"; }
function closeIT() {
sealWin.close();
}
Works fine in the parent window that created the popup, but when I link to
another page and call the closeIT function the window is undefined?
How can I close the same popup window in a window that did NOT create the
popup?
//Ryan
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:03:54 -0400
From: "Benjamin C. Varadi" <bvaradi at nlcnet.org>
Organization: National Labor Committee
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Opening the users default Mp3 player
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
OK, I just went back to the archives and the thread seems to have
diverged a bit from the original question. I'm gonna post this anyway,
though, 'cause I think it's useful information.
IMO, the answer to the original question:
> I have some links that are Mp3s - users can listen to these - but i want
to
> open in their default Mp3 player from my website.
...would have to be talking the (Windows) user into downloading and
running some kind of registry hack file, which any sane person should be
loathe to do. The next best option (IMO) if you have the equipment is
Shoutcast (discussed below), or one of the third party mp3 hosts like
those already mentioned, Live365.com or mp3.com (these *are* original
works to which you hold the copyright, right?). ;)
Mark Gallagher wrote:
> Look into using RealMedia or ASX then. AIUI, they can be set so that
> music *cannot* be saved, but can be listened to by anyone with a
> perfectly functioning T1 line.
Keep in mind that there's really no such thing as *cannot* on the web.
Plenty of utilities exist out there to capture audio from a stream. Of
course, you have to determine for yourself if you have the type of
listeners who are gonna go through the trouble of capturing your stream
in one program, editing it in another, and then exporting with a third
all to get a radio (or telephone, or whatever)-quality song or three.
To my mind, the real advantage to streaming over downloading is lower
download time and building of brand loyalty after a sort- users can hear
music for free, but they have to visit your site (or at least see your
URL in their audio player) to do it.
The easiest way to create streaming RealAudio is to create a text file
that contains only the URL of whatever.ra file, and save it as
whatever.ram
(You got your .ra file, of course, by running your original audio file
through RealProducer. Probably the free version.)
When a user clicks on the .ram file, it *should* open RealPlayer & start
streaming. I don't doubt that there are CGI scripts that mask or rename
.ra files or somesuch to make them more difficult to be downloaded.
I've never bothered looking.
The downside to Real files is that if you're actually using a streaming
server (as opposed to the .ram deal), you're gonna have to shell out mad
funds for the server software.
Burhan Khalid wrote:
> I would also suggest looking up shoutcast streams. They don't require a
> dedicated server (just a plugin as far as I can remember).
Shoutcast is a streaming mp3 method (protocol? I'm no good with the
lingo). Clicking on a link to a shoutcast stream will automatically
open the user's default mp3 player *most* of the time. mp3s won't be
downloaded.
Shoutcast has two components- a server program and a streaming program.
The server listens for streams (which login with a user/pass), and
then broadcasts them. It's been configured for a certain number of
users or streams or bandwidth or whatever.
The streaming program captures audio from somewhere, encodes it to mp3
on the fly, and sends it to the server. The most common stream source
is the shoutcast Winamp plugin, which can capture audio from Winamp,
from a mic, or from the soundcard and encodes it based on whatever mp3
encoders are already installed on your system.
The server and streaming programs can be run on the same machine.
I've had good experiences using one computer for this task running
Shoutcast streaming plugin (www.shoutcast.com) for Winamp with Icecast
(www.icecast.org) as the server. In our setup, the two programs were
put in the Windows startup menu, with shoutcast configured to listen to
the soundcard line-in. This was connected to a free monitor jack on the
mixer, and whenever lag times seemed to get bad, we'd just reboot.
Most Shoutcast & related software is free/open source.
Another esoteric option that's just too weird to make for easy pirating
is to use Flash's streaming capabilities. Make yourself a little Flash
file that's nothing but control buttons for the song, drop in the audio
and embed it.
There's also Microsoft's WMA format, which I think does inline
streaming/playing, but I'm not too sure. I don't doubt that it works
fine and has its own pluses/minuses, i just haven't used it.
Having said all that, some of the newer versions of IE for Windows have
some kind of horrible windows media player integration that
automatically pops up in a sidebar and plays an mp3 when you click on
it, which it sounds like you want. If that's the case, then just write
some kind of code denying access to anyone not using IE 5.5 for Win ME
or whatever, alienate everyone else and call it a day. ;)
...and because I can't figure out if this was ontopic:
<TIP TYPE="software recommendation- screen ruler">
If you're anything like me, it's pretty rare that you need a program
like screen ruler (www.microfox.com). It's just a drag-able, resizeable
ruler for pixels (the registered one also does a whole bunch of other
units). When you do need it, though, it sure is nice to have on hand-
and hey, at 26k, the whole program takes up less space than a lot of web
pages you've already seen today.</tip>
-BEN
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Message: 18
From: "Joel Ricker" <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:23:51 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
> Joel,
>
> If you didn't get this layout from bluerobot.com (looks like it) then head
over there. He has this
> layout which is supposed to work in NS4 I thought..I use it at
www.pixelmech.com.
Yep I sure did.
Is that layout free to borrow from? I don't see anything mentioned. That's
why bluerobot appealed to me so much since the author said to feel free to
borrow that design.
Joel
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Message: 19
From: "Joel Ricker" <joel at prettyhipprogramming.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:29:25 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
>
> If you didn't get this layout from bluerobot.com (looks like it) then head
over there. He has this
> layout which is supposed to work in NS4 I thought..I use it at
www.pixelmech.com.
Actually it doesn't work in NS4 :( How worried should I be about
supporting Netscape4? What browser statistics I found recently seems to say
that only a few people are using Netscape4 (well me but only for browser
checking). Is that right?
Joel
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:24:01 -0500
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Ben Dyer <ben_dyer at imaginuity.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Site Check : http://www.prettyhipprogramming.com
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
On 03:29 PM 6/18/2002, Joel Ricker said to me:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
> >
> > If you didn't get this layout from bluerobot.com (looks like it) then
head
>over there. He has this
> > layout which is supposed to work in NS4 I thought..I use it at
>www.pixelmech.com.
>
>Actually it doesn't work in NS4 :( How worried should I be about
>supporting Netscape4? What browser statistics I found recently seems to
say
>that only a few people are using Netscape4 (well me but only for browser
>checking). Is that right?
Well, if it's really a concern, this might help:
<http://www.saila.com/usage/layouts/nn4-layouts.shtml>
--Ben
Ben Dyer, Senior Internet Developer, Imaginuity Interactive
http://www.imaginuity.com/
Whatever it is, I'm sure that I was just about to get to it.
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky for
you lately? I am
contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error where
it says "temporary
problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually reloading
fixes the problem,
although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
I know this is not an issue with my computer at work, it happens at home
too. They are different
as well (NT vs XP). This strangely has seemed to coincide with HP's takeover
of Compaq...
I owe a tip, I'm drawing a blank..I will post one asap.
/pix
=====
var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
http://www.pixelmech.com/
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:39:09 +0100
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org, <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
From: Simon Willison <simon at incutio.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Site check request + blatant weblog promotion
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
At 12:23 18/06/2002 -0700, Burhan Khalid wrote:
> > > Do you know of any other recommended ways of achieving a 2
> > > column layout that will avoid this problem while still
> > > resizing to fit
> > > larger font sizes?
>
>If you use percentage widths on DIVs it should resize. I think I'm
>missing something here, are you talking about resizing the "box" or the
>font?
I mean the site layout has to hold together when the user increases their
font size - often CSS layouts (especially those that use absoltue
positioning) suffer from text overlappig other design elements as the user
increases the font size.
Cheers,
Simon
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Message: 23
From: "Chris" <axe at suburbia.com.au>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:22:37 +0930
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Perhaps the error you recieve is there way of dealing with a database access
error or something.. such as when there are too many connections or what
not.
Regards,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tom Dell'Aringa
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 06:04
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky for
you lately? I am
contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error where
it says "temporary
problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually reloading
fixes the problem,
although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
I know this is not an issue with my computer at work, it happens at home
too. They are different
as well (NT vs XP). This strangely has seemed to coincide with HP's takeover
of Compaq...
I owe a tip, I'm drawing a blank..I will post one asap.
/pix
=====
var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
http://www.pixelmech.com/
__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Not sure what you mean, but seeing as its an online service separate from
me, I doubt there is
anything I can do about it, which is why I'm wondering how many other people
are experiencing it..
--- Chris <axe at suburbia.com.au> wrote:
> Perhaps the error you recieve is there way of dealing with a database
access
> error or something.. such as when there are too many connections or what
> not.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tom Dell'Aringa
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 06:04
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
>
>
> For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky for
> you lately? I am
> contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error
where
> it says "temporary
> problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually reloading
> fixes the problem,
> although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
>
> I know this is not an issue with my computer at work, it happens at home
> too. They are different
> as well (NT vs XP). This strangely has seemed to coincide with HP's
takeover
> of Compaq...
>
> I owe a tip, I'm drawing a blank..I will post one asap.
>
> /pix
>
>
>
> =====
> var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
> http://www.pixelmech.com/
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
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__________________________________________________
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Message: 25
From: "Chris" <axe at suburbia.com.au>
To: "Thelist at Lists. Evolt. Org" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:51:03 +0930
Subject: [thelist] MySQL Backup
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hey,
I am currently working on a project that has a requirement for automated
backups of a MySQL database. I figured the best way to do this was via a
crontab which executes a script (php or other) that backs up the database.
I could more than likely code this myself, but the phrase 'why reinvent the
wheel' comes to mind. So I was wondering if anyone has come across a script
that can accomplish what I am after.
Thanks,
Chris
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RE: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
From: "David Ulevitch" <davidu at everydns.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
<quote who="Tom DellAringa">
> Not sure what you mean, but seeing as its an online service separate
> from me, I doubt there is anything I can do about it, which is why I'm
> wondering how many other people are experiencing it..
He didn't say it was your fault. He was saying that's prolly how they
handle errors.
What did the response from YahooMail support say to you?
-davidu
>
> --- Chris <axe at suburbia.com.au> wrote:
>> Perhaps the error you recieve is there way of dealing with a database
>> access error or something.. such as when there are too many
>> connections or what not.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
>> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tom Dell'Aringa
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 06:04
>> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
>>
>>
>> For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky
>> for you lately? I am
>> contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error
>> where it says "temporary
>> problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually
>> reloading fixes the problem,
>> although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
>>
>> I know this is not an issue with my computer at work, it happens at
>> home too. They are different
>> as well (NT vs XP). This strangely has seemed to coincide with HP's
>> takeover of Compaq...
>>
>> I owe a tip, I'm drawing a blank..I will post one asap.
>>
>> /pix
>>
>>
>>
>> =====
>> var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
>> http://www.pixelmech.com/
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
>> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
>> --
>> For unsubscribe and other options, including
>> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
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>>
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>> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
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>
>
> =====
> var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
> http://www.pixelmech.com/
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> --
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> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Goodyear <rob_goodyear at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I've been using Yahoo! Mail (maybe 5?) years and from time to time I
experience
the same problem. They do seem to come in clusters, so I would chalk it up
to
DB problems on their end. I *do* however follow their advice and actually
wait
ten minutes before I keep hitting the server, and I find that they really do
need a couple of minutes to resync or whatever on their end.
But to recap, I've had this error for years, affecting about one mail
session
every month, and given that I read about 120-160 emails a day and write
about
15-20 over the span of maybe 10-12 user sessions daily, it gets in my way
about
0.3% of the time, so I can't complain about the service in general.
/rg
> Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
>
>
> For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky for
> you lately? I am
> contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error
where
> it says "temporary
> problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually reloading
> fixes the problem,
> although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
>
__________________________________________________
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Message: 28
From: "John Corry" <webshot at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL Backup
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:33:16 -1000
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&querytime=Fx2WjB&q=cron+
MySQL+backup
Produced this... http://www.bar21.co.uk/mysql_dump.html
Which actually looks helpful...
Bookmarked and ready fo rm eto read after work...this would be extremely
useful to me.
John Corry
Neon Cowboy Design
http://www.neoncowboy.com
mail : john at neoncowboy.com
phone : 808.572.8494
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Message: 29
From: "Chris" <axe at suburbia.com.au>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL Backup
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:02:43 +0930
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Thanks for that, I'll check it out.
Honestly it never occured to me to add 'cron' to the search query. :)
Regards,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of John Corry
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 07:03
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL Backup
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&querytime=Fx2WjB&q=cron+
MySQL+backup
Produced this... http://www.bar21.co.uk/mysql_dump.html
Which actually looks helpful...
Bookmarked and ready fo rm eto read after work...this would be extremely
useful to me.
John Corry
Neon Cowboy Design
http://www.neoncowboy.com
mail : john at neoncowboy.com
phone : 808.572.8494
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Message: 30
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa" <pixelmech at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
If I knew where YahooMail support was I'd email them..I looked and didn't
find it..either I am
really dense...or...well I'm probably dense. All I find is help links but no
link to actually
email anyone, so if you know where it is I'd be obliged if you would share.
pixelmech
--- David Ulevitch <davidu at everydns.net> wrote:
> He didn't say it was your fault. He was saying that's prolly how they
> handle errors.
>
> What did the response from YahooMail support say to you?
>
> -davidu
>
> >
> > --- Chris <axe at suburbia.com.au> wrote:
> >> Perhaps the error you recieve is there way of dealing with a database
> >> access error or something.. such as when there are too many
> >> connections or what not.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> >> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tom Dell'Aringa
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 06:04
> >> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> >> Subject: [thelist] off topic - Yahoo! mail acting freaky?
> >>
> >>
> >> For anyone else with yahoo mail out there - has it been acting freaky
> >> for you lately? I am
> >> contstantly getting errors while doing all sorts of things, the error
> >> where it says "temporary
> >> problem accessing mailbox, check back in 10 minutes". Usually
> >> reloading fixes the problem,
> >> although sometimes it takes 3,4 or 5 times. Its very aggravating.
> >>
> >> I know this is not an issue with my computer at work, it happens at
> >> home too. They are different
> >> as well (NT vs XP). This strangely has seemed to coincide with HP's
> >> takeover of Compaq...
> >>
> >> I owe a tip, I'm drawing a blank..I will post one asap.
> >>
> >> /pix
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> =====
> >> var me = tom.pixelmech.webDeveloper();
> >> http://www.pixelmech.com/
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> Do You Yahoo!?
> >> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> >> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> >> --
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> >
> >
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> > http://www.pixelmech.com/
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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>
>
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> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
>
>
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Message: 31
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hans Zaunere <zaunere at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] MySQL Backup
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
In the contrib/support/share dirs of the MySQL binary/source distros
there are some perl scripts that do "hot" backups of tables/DBs. There
are quite a few ways to do this, depending on your needs:
http://mysql.com/doc/D/i/Disaster_Prevention.html
Also consider replication.. very nice, reliable, and easy to setup,
again, depending on your needs.
If you'd like to do a script in PHP to run from cron, basically all the
perl script does is lock the table at hand, backsup, unlocks, etc.
It's really straightforward, and making a slick script would probably
improve upon the existing perl script.
Hans Z.
New York PHP
http://nyphp.org
--- Chris <axe at suburbia.com.au> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I am currently working on a project that has a requirement for
> automated
> backups of a MySQL database. I figured the best way to do this was
> via a
> crontab which executes a script (php or other) that backs up the
> database.
>
> I could more than likely code this myself, but the phrase 'why
> reinvent the
> wheel' comes to mind. So I was wondering if anyone has come across a
> script
> that can accomplish what I am after.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> --
> For unsubscribe and other options, including
> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to:
> http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !
__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
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Message: 32
From: "Daniel Medley" <dm at lgcy.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:06:17 -0700
Subject: [thelist] Number 2 and a site check?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
http://www.lobowalk.com/chezbetty/home.html is a mock-up of a site a friend
of mine wants me to make for him. I've only made one other so I'm lacking in
experience and could use your thoughts and input on this.
The color scheme and copy are his (for the most part) and he wants new
windows to open in the links. I've tested it in IE 5.5 and NN4.x pc and it
behaves as expected in NN.4 (not good). That's okay with him though. What
I'm wondering is how it may look with other browsers on other platforms.
Also any advice and/or input concerning navigation, markup and layout. I
believe that my css is a bit cumbersome and would appreciate some thoughts
on it as well, if possible.
Thank you in advance,
Daniel Medley
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Message: 33
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:05:43 +0100
From: david currey <dave at state51.co.uk>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] the order of code in html?(absolute div on top of div)
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
hello,
if i have an absolute positioned div before a relative div in my html,
the relative div ignores its positioning /padding etc.
if the absolute positioned div is at the end of the document it renders
correctly.
I would like to understand why...
eg. THIS WORKS AS EXPECTED
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>why</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1" />
<style type="text/css">
.threehundreddown {
height:115px;
z-index:1;
background-color: #0033FF;
margin-top: 300px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="threehundreddown" class="threehundreddown">down there
</div>
<div id="abspositioned" style="position:absolute; width:200px;
height:300px; z-index:1; left: 0; top: 0; background:
#0099FF;">lklklk</div>
</body>
</html>
eg. THIS DOES NOT WORK
<div id="threehundreddown" class="threehundreddown">down there
</div>
<div id="abspositioned" style="position:absolute; width:200px;
height:300px; z-index:1; left: 0; top: 0; background:
#0099FF;">lklklk</div>
Does anyone know why this is happening?
thanks,
dave
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Message: 34
From: "John Handelaar" <genghis at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Yikes! Misbehaving machine - please help.
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:11:59 +0100
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Marc Seyon
> Sent: 18 June 2002 20:00
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Yikes! Misbehaving machine - please help.
>
> My resident computer-guru advised that it's likely that the
> CD-drive itself is on the way out, and this may be the root of
> the problem. What say ye?
Says I: either he's 100% correct, or it's the
cable running between the IDE controller and the
CD drive that's shot. But on balance of probabilities,
it's more likely to be the CD drive.
------------------------------------------
John Handelaar
T +44 20 8933 1494 M +44 7930 681789
F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
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Message: 35
From: "Mark Joslyn" <mark.joslyn at solimarsystems.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Number 2 and a site check?
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:22:03 -0700
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
WIN 2k, IE 6.0, 1280 x 1024
Site looks very clean, but big pet peeve, horizontal scroll bars. It looks
like you could get rid of these - your content could easily be placed into a
smaller section.
The windows launching after each selection is a bit excessive (but the
customer wants them - keep talking him out of this idea!!) and each window
looks separate from the site (not really branded). I suggest tying in the
pop-up windows by using the background (purplish) color from the main site.
Am I missing some side navigation? There seems to be an incredible amount of
space between the navigation titles and their accompanying links. What is
the mushroom for, you do not use this type of artwork anyplace else -
thought it was a link until I clicked it. Overall, the content is very
spaced out - lots of white space. I did not trouble shoot the code though.
Nice clean site. Good luck with the launch!
markJ
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Medley
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:06 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Number 2 and a site check?
http://www.lobowalk.com/chezbetty/home.html is a mock-up of a site a friend
of mine wants me to make for him. I've only made one other so I'm lacking in
experience and could use your thoughts and input on this.
The color scheme and copy are his (for the most part) and he wants new
windows to open in the links. I've tested it in IE 5.5 and NN4.x pc and it
behaves as expected in NN.4 (not good). That's okay with him though. What
I'm wondering is how it may look with other browsers on other platforms.
Also any advice and/or input concerning navigation, markup and layout. I
believe that my css is a bit cumbersome and would appreciate some thoughts
on it as well, if possible.
Thank you in advance,
Daniel Medley
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Message: 36
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:25:45 -0400
From: Gary Bland <Gary at star-chaser.com>
Organization: StarChaser Web Architecture
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] the order of code in html?(absolute div on top of
div)
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
david currey wrote:
> hello,
> if i have an absolute positioned div before a relative div in my html,
> the relative div ignores its positioning /padding etc.
>
> if the absolute positioned div is at the end of the document it renders
> correctly.
>
> I would like to understand why...
>
> eg. THIS WORKS AS EXPECTED
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
> <head>
> <title>why</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1" />
> <style type="text/css">
> .threehundreddown {
> height:115px;
> z-index:1;
> background-color: #0033FF;
> margin-top: 300px;
> }
> </style>
> </head>
>
> <body>
>
> <div id="threehundreddown" class="threehundreddown">down there
> </div>
> <div id="abspositioned" style="position:absolute; width:200px;
> height:300px; z-index:1; left: 0; top: 0; background:
> #0099FF;">lklklk</div>
>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> eg. THIS DOES NOT WORK
>
>
> <div id="threehundreddown" class="threehundreddown">down there
> </div>
> <div id="abspositioned" style="position:absolute; width:200px;
> height:300px; z-index:1; left: 0; top: 0; background:
> #0099FF;">lklklk</div>
>
> Does anyone know why this is happening?
>
> thanks,
>
> dave
When you use absolute positioning you remove the box from the flow of
the doc. It has no impact on anything that follows it.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#absolutely-positioned
gary
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Message: 37
From: "Mark Joslyn" <mark.joslyn at solimarsystems.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:24:53 -0700
Subject: [thelist] IE 6.0 + View Source
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Bit of a problem here!
I have IE 6.0 (Win 2k) and it has been working perfectly, until now. I can
no longer view the source code for any web page on the Internet and the Edit
with Notepad button is no use since it scrambles the HTML code. I have tried
all the tricks: Re-install, clean out my temporary Internet files, etc..
Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any solutions out there? This
thing is driving me crazy and all my IT people can tell me is, "You need a
new machine!".
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
markJ
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Message: 38
From: "Bob Haroche" <spambait at onpointsolutions.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] IE 6.0 + View Source
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:31:39 -0700
Organization: OnPoint Solutions
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I don't know the answer but it looks like Google very well might:
http://urlizer.com/00/938/
Regards,
Bob Haroche
O n P o i n t S o l u t i o n s
http://www.OnPointSolutions.com
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Message: 39
From: Daniel Fascia <danfascia at totalise.co.uk>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:44:00 +0100
Subject: Re: [thelist] Number 2 and a site check?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>The color scheme and copy are his (for the most part)
Nice and clean... If I was being a total critic I would say that for a
restaurant
I would want some product photography, the business is perfect for some
staged photos of dishes and the restaurant itself, photos of the kitchen and
the chef etc...
This would really set off the clean style. My favourite food related site in
the
world in terms of styling is www.deandeluca.com. Take a look and be
inspired!
But hey, not really a lot of work to make this look really stylish ;-)
>windows to open in the links. I've tested it in IE 5.5 and NN4.x pc and it
All of the links being popups is quite annoying and totally unecessary apart
from the
actual outbound links which is OK.
As for actual problems, in Opera the links on the navbar go very very small
and
illegible when you :hover over them. Check your stylesheet has font-size(s)
on the
:hover class as well as the normal one...
Apart from those comments, good work...
HtH
Dan
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Message: 40
From: "Daniel Medley" <dm at lgcy.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Number 2 and a site check?
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:23:47 -0700
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Daniel Frascia wrote:
> Nice and clean... If I was being a total critic I would say that for a
>restaurant
> I would want some product photography, the business is perfect for >some
> staged photos of dishes and the restaurant itself, photos of the kitchen
>and
> the chef etc...
Funny you should say that. I'm headed to his house now to get some photos.
> All of the links being popups is quite annoying and totally unecessary
apart from the
> actual outbound links which is OK.
I tend to agree with you.
> As for actual problems, in Opera the links on the navbar go very very
small and
> illegible when you :hover over them. Check your stylesheet has
font-size(s) on the
> :hover class as well as the normal one...
It looks as though I have the size stated properly, which means that I must
not know what I'm doing. It is as follows:
A.nav {
color : #000000;
font-weight : normal;
font-size : 70%;
background-color : #cccccc;
}
A.nav:active {
color : #000000;
font-weight : normal;
font-size : 70%;
background-color : #cccccc;
}
A.nav:visited {
color : #000000;
font-weight : normal;
font-size : 70%;
background-color : #cccccc;
}
A.nav:hover {
color : #cc0033;
font-weight : normal;
font-size : 70%;
background-color : #cccccc;
text-decoration : none;
}
I must be doing something goofy though.
Thank you for your input and help,
Daniel
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