yeah, yeah, more links to archives -- but this discussion *really* got good back on thesite in january... anyway, this was my response to rudy's *flawed* larry/curly/moe structure... (let's see how long he'll let 'flawed' sit out there): http://lists.evolt.org/thesitearchive/2002-January/004669.html another response (or two) to rudy: http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020114/065767.html http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020114/065840.html btw, by typing "larry curly moe rudy" into the leo search box -- lots of good links in the resultant page... although i half expected to get something back that was funny enough to make a joke about here... sadly, none... rudy shall live another day.... -- Read the evolt.org case study Usability: The Site Speaks for Itself http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151035/evoltorg ISBN: 1904151035