Jeff, As for Java, I've been presented Instranet, it's done through a Java applet, and it's really impressive, although very expensive. Cut-and-paste complex data (tables PLUS images PLUS formatted text) and there was no layman-perceivable loss. (of course what I say represents my opinion and not my company's and blah blah blah, and I'm not affiliated in any way blah blah blah) > > all the java ones i've seen have left me less than > impressed. i have > seen > > two flash implementations but they're far from complete. > > > > http://www.active-web.cc/html/wysiwyg/ > > http://www.illogicz.com/flashmx/texteditor/