Hi Andrew Can you post the code in question? It makes it a lot easier to try and help when you can see the code being run... <guessmode>anyway in smtp.php are you doing an fsockopen to a SMTP server?</guessmode> Cheers Rich -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Maynes Sent: 02 September 2002 14:48 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: RE : [thelist] SMTP Apache Thanks for the links, for some very bizarre reason all I need to do was put in the ../ before the file path which now creates this: Could not connect to smtp host : 9 : Bad file descriptor Any ideas? Andrew [snip]