On Saturday, September 21, 2002, 3:08:58 PM, you said: J> Spare me the Orwell. Internet discussions are impossible to continue J> whenever some one quotes Orwell, Star Trek or Hitler. I could have mis-read, but I believe he was making a joke. It's actually pretty darned funny, it's a surprisingly accurate description of the process. Well, anyhow, I was amused. -- Frank Marion framar at interlog.com http://www.frankmarion.com