hi. me again. i'm making a list right now which at most is two levels deep. the problem i'm having is that the second level of the list has misaligned list items. like this... (each space in my diagram is actually only equal to about 2 or 3 pixels at most). * Main Topic 1 * Sub Head 1 * Sub Head 2 * Sub Head 3 * Main Topic 2 * Sub Head 1 * Sub Head 2 * Sub Head 3 * Main Topic 3 * Sub Head 1 * Sub Head 2 * Sub Head 3 not all of them are misaligned, but they do misalign consistently in the same spot. i am using ie6 sp1 only (intranet thing) and coding in xhtml transitional with css. so basically no tables except for data. i'm afraid it's going to be some stupid quirk with ie that can't be fixed. thanks for your help with this! chris.