1) can anyone point me towards literature on browser support for inline frames or any pro/con discussions? 2) i'm not really a frame guy, but i like the idea of inlining. however, testing my site on IE 5.2 (Mac) renders this page a mess: http://me.breathehard.com/music.html there aren't any scrollbars for the frame! what's going on? thanks all. dan ~ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com