Hi anyone got any idea why the swf file served here: http://www.torbytes.co.uk/op/tm2/lv1/item1343-game.htm using the ALA flash satay method (http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flashsatay/) loses the background color that is clearly present when just opening the swf in IE: http://www.torbytes.co.uk/images/bruneltrain/brunel.swf I know I could add a <param name="bgcolor" value="" /> to the object but I'm using a template and want to avoid it if possible. help anyone? TIA Tony