Search for "DHTML navigation window" http://www.jessett.com/web_sites/dhtml/index.shtml Eric Meyer actually did this with CSS too, checkout his css/edge at www.meyerweb.com site TjL -- Flash, Pop Up Windows, Animated Gifs... what did I miss? "Most Annoying Things on the Web" @ http://www.tntluoma.com/notes/000340.php