--------------- Jellle Desramaults wrote: --------------- : Hey list, : : <blabla> : My name is Jelle Desramaults, i'm a belgian webdesigner and new : to the list, nice to be here. : : i"ll start off with a bit of a selfish post, : </blabla> Welcome :) : iv'e set up my basic css layout on : : http://www.chong.be/mountaintop/index2.html : : first try on the non-table approach : : my setup is winXP, IE 6.0, opera 7.23, mozilla 1.5 : : hopefully my css stands strong in the face of older versions :) Helluva lot better than my first tries. Here are my observations: http://neohero.municode.com/scr/mountOpera.jpg