Yeah, all that pesky *creativity* is done for you, now all that's left is plugging in content like a good little cog! ;p Sorry, but services like this annoy me. How about people stop wanting things yesterday, and value quality over quantity? I know it's a crazy concept, but I think we can figure it out, the human race. There are only, what, several billion of us? Come on guys... -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Richard Davey Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:10 PM To: Casey Crookston; thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Template Monster [WAS: A Beginner Freelance Question] Hello Casey, Thursday, July 22, 2004, 5:53:17 PM, you wrote: CC> I'm at www.templatemonster.com a LOT. Mostly I use it for ideas... browse CC> through their templates, copy a few of their screenshots into photoshop, and CC> use them as lauchpads for new sites I'm doing. I did purchase one of their CC> templates for a customer, mostly 'cause it was cheap and I wanted to see CC> what happened after the purchase. It's a tad cumbersome simply to download CC> the template, and I still had to do a TON of mods to make it fit the CC> client's need. I have to admit, that of all the template sites out there Template Monster is easily the best. Their ordering process has changed quite a lot over the past year and isn't the most fluid of things, but it works well - and if you're a repeat customer you bypass their fraud check most of the time which speeds it up. My biggest gripe with TM templates are the Photoshop files. You have never seen such a disorganised mess of layers in your life! A complex template can have literally hundreds of them - which is fine, I like to have everything in a layer too - but at least I actually GROUP my layers into sets and give them meaningful names! Do not expect anything this professional from Template Monster PSDs. That aside, they are very good quality designs IMHO. A little on the heavy side graphically and they like using Flash too much, but they're still far better looking than anything else out there, especially considering the price. I have bought a number of them now because I'll see elements on the preview that make me think "cool.. swap that header image out, change the colours and I'm done, etc". Quicker than doing it yourself? Well after you've tidied the PSD up and made all the changes, probably not - but it's EASIER, that's for sure, someone else has done the hard part (the design) for you, and they are GOOD designs. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !