Heh, and a good point, I suppose. Dentist told me I need fillings this morning, and I'm reading "No Logo"... I think I'm just a bit crabby and confrontational. ;) I still don't like sites like that though. Maybe I just need a better illustration to show it, but for now I guess I'll go back to the sidelines... -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Richard Davey Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:26 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Template Monster [WAS: A Beginner FreelanceQuestion] Hello Seth, Thursday, July 22, 2004, 6:22:11 PM, you wrote: STR> Yeah, all that pesky *creativity* is done for you, now all that's left is STR> plugging in content like a good little cog! ;p STR> Sorry, but services like this annoy me. How about people stop wanting things STR> yesterday, and value quality over quantity? I know it's a crazy concept, but STR> I think we can figure it out, the human race. There are only, what, several STR> billion of us? Come on guys... I'm a PHP developer, not a site designer. If it cuts down my design time massively then I'll use it. But hey, if you'll design me something as good as that for $80 I'll consider it. Just like people install PHPBB, UBB, osCommerce, Gallery, etc onto their sites - from my perspective I mean come on - all that pesky *code* is done for you, now all that is left is to plug in your variables like a good little cog. Crazy concept but why can't you code it yourself? (BTW I do always code it myself, it's my job, I'm just making my point). Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !