And they are still using this as some negotation tactic. If my price is too high, in there opinion, I always here. "Well I was thinking of getting <insert kids name here>, whos my cousins, uncles, roommate step-son to do the site, he said he would do it for a bag of rollos". Always have to bite my tounge otherwise I would probably use the "you get what you pay for line". -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Sweeney Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:55 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Template Monster > Let's face it. The use of templates is the preserve of the bedroom > designer. > > In some respects it shouldn't concern web professionals like ourselves > as these peoples markets are totally different from our own. However > template use is just another example of how amateur "web designers" are > cheapening the business of web design and making it harder on the rest > of us. For some reason there are businesses that think it's OK to get your neighbour's teenage kid to build your website in FrontPage (for example). Would you hire this person to create a TV ad or do other marketing and/or sales for you? Not likely. Eventually people have to start taking the web more seriously both as a marketing tool and in general. Most people recognize crappy ads when they see them on TV, and soon they'll start to recognize crappy websites, too :) -- Sarah Sweeney Web Developer & Programmer Portfolio :: http://sarah.designshift.com Blog, etc :: http://hardedge.ca -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !