Sorry, I'm feeling a bit pedantic today... >>state a table and/or cell height? > The only thing I would say is that tables don't have a height attribute > in HTML, so whatever you're building isn't strictly speaking HTML. This depends what HTML you are speaking of. If you ask Microsoft, then height attribute apllies to table (and td too): http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/height_2.asp And while deprecated since HTML 4.0, in HTML 3.2 TD has both width and height: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32#table Use the Source Luke ;-) (or at least the Specs :-) .k