Diner: Waiter, what is this bug doing in my soup? Waiter (after close examination): Looks like the backstroke,,, Nothing will identify your fallibility as quickly as writing and testing a complex program. There are people in almost all companies, whose survival depends on their political skills, namely, pinning blame on others, escaping responsibility, and taking credit where they can. If a person can make the claim that he has never written a program bug, it's safe to assume he has never written a program. Finding and eliminating bugs is a science in itself, and notice I said "finding and eliminating" as apposed to "finding and reporting". Those that can "find and eliminate" bugs are the Rodney Dangerfield's of a company. Monkeys can "find and report" bugs. I suspect that being victimized by an office politician on these issues drives more people to leave the computer field than any other single cause. I just hope that when my job is sent to India, they place a politician in charge and make him responsible. Warren Vail -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Rob Smith Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:15 AM To: Thelist (E-mail) Subject: [thelist] General Statement - There's Bugs in Everything Hi, One of the "big wigs" surprised me yesterday with a comment that "There's bugs in everything." I took this in lieu of web development: Although I whole heartedly agree with him, I open a discussion as to ... why? Is it out of laziness of not checking all the p's and q's? Is it inevitable because we're human and not everything we do is perfect? Is it ignorance because most everything we do in the web arena is "new?" Your thoughts, Rob Smith -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !