> Darn it Tom, you make too much sense for me to ignore!!! And I was so > proud > of myself for finally learning how to code the darn thing! > > So, I'm taking your advice and making the submenu visible all the time -- > but I would still like to make the square change color when the mouse goes > over it. Is there an easy way to have the layer background change when a > mouse goes over it without using a nested layer like I have set up now? Loads: Try http://wellstyled.com/css-nopreload-rollovers.html -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/