[..] > I'd rather work with the type of designer that understand that a web > site serves a purpose, and has a function beyond providing ooh-aah eye > candy. Of course effective visual design can help the site serve its > purpose, but if the toilet doesn't flush... I see your point, but I would say that it would be the job of the designer to place the toilet in the bathroom, and the job of the developer to make it flush; figuratively. A good GUI designer doesn't have to be aware of what technology is going to be used to implement the GUI. A good GUI designer would be able to design a site; or application; that could be implemented using HTML and CSS, Flash, VB, Visual C++, or Java - given a good brief > I personally try to stay as pure-css, standards-compliant as possible, > given the requirements and limitations of a given project (time, money > etc.), but maybe that just means that I'm more developer than > designer. This is good methodology. I am experimenting with a total style and content seperation at the moment. I take the content, and mark it up with absolutely no regard for presentation whatsoever. If a section of content is not in a logical page division, then it doesn't go in a div. If something is not a paragraph, it does not go between p tags. Once the page is marked up, I then take a look at the page design. I use CSS to style the content, and the only change to the markup will be the addition of classes and ids. No tags will enter the markup at this stage. I'm sure that it's not giong to be possible to follow this route for absoultely everything, but I believe that this manner of working will maximise my chances of having semantically correct, standards compliant web sites. It seems to working well so far. Regards Chris Marsh _______________________________________________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the email immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Callserve Communications accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service.