I just finished a script to generate the markup needed for the CSS examples at listamatic automatically and in different formats, depending on the ID of the navigation list. Might be helpful to some: http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/easynav/ -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/