[thelist] Pop-up Blocker v. Opening a new window
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From: "Jeff Howden" <jeff at jeffhowden.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:04 AM
Subject: RE: [thelist] Pop-up Blocker v. Opening a new window
Jeff wrote:
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> To view a larger image, I can understand the desire to open a new,
> *smaller*
> window, but to an order form or an external site? If you're linking to an
> external site and you want to use a new window, do the user a favor and
> don't specify a size or any chrome options. They'll thank you for leaving
> that stuff untouched. As to the order form, I don't get that at all.
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TYME} So that the user can still see the product page in the bg of the new
smaller window, if necessary. See http://www.BoomersRentals.com/. (I did
have it so the order form window opened side-by-side with product page,
thereby allowing the user to actually scroll the product page. Too many
windows. See http://www.JuliesRentals.com/.) This was pretty much a
freebie site, designed long ago -- before CSS was stable on many in-use
browsers. And, at the time of inception, hosted without such tools as
shopping carts readily available. I will create a nicer solution
eventually, when I upgrade the site's code, but since it will be for free,
it has taken a lower priority. ...Both the clients and myself liked the
simplicity of this order form solution. To my knowledge, customers don't
mind either.
TYME} The client does like the pop-up window for order form (preferring that
to having the page load in the main window), but he did point out that issue
of pop-up blockers. He went to create a test order. Got the confirm() box;
clicked OK, but nothing happened. The new window had been blocked by the
pop-up blocker. Problem: he didn't even realize that he had any pop-up
blocker at work. Since IE now comes with this option default, this issue
might be true for others.
>> Is there an eloquent way (with and without JS) to still
>> do so, given the prominence of built-in and 3rd party
>> pop-up blockers?
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> Without JavaScript? No, unless you're willing to keep the functionality
> down to *just* a new window without the extra control of sizes, chrome,
TYME} That is fine for the non-JS users. That is exactly what they would
get with just the target="_blank" attribute. But, even that seems to be
blocked by some pop-up blockers.
> placement, etc. With JavaScript you not only have the more advance
> capabilities (if popups are allowed), but you also have the ability to
> detect if popups are being blocked or not and give an appropriate response
> to the user.
TYME} That is a start. Haven't yet found this coding solution. (Searched
"javascript pop-up blocking".) That would help somewhat, for now. Suppose
that I need to just suck it up and recode both of those sites with different
Order Form solution. <whine>I'm a filmmaker, dang it! I'll never get back
onto my own projects!</whine>
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