As for the other comment - unless you're prepared to back these things up, please don't invite a flame war by posting what are inflammatory comments. not at all, Google already has a better desktop search: http://desktop.google.com/?promo=mp-gds-v1-1 Sun has Looking Glass already: http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/index.xml and the windows themselves look a lot like Quartz Extreme to me: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quartzextreme/ my humble opinion of course :-) thank you for your time. Last time I checked, neither Google, Sun or Apple shipped a product that supported Kerberos as a HTTP authentication mechanism, or supported something similar to Group Policy Objects (GPOs). txs, won't bother responding to paragraph above, don't think I mentioned anything about those technologies. cheers, Mark