> can you put the border onto the links themselves? If so then you can change > the border colour with a:hover. > > perhaps: > > a.dropLinks { > border-left: 5px solid #eaeaea; > } > > a.dropLinks:hover { > border-left: 5px solid #ffffff; > } Of course you can. Eric Meyer discusses this: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/talks/2003/commug/commug.html and you can see it in action here: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical09.htm by just clicking. :) HTH, Hershel