[thelist] plagiarism and content

[Dan McCullough]

That example of "You are NOT required to get more than one estimate"
would not be considered plagerism, I think that you might have a
problem with "Using our 16 and a half point precision inspection" and
then proceed to list the 16 and a half points, that might be a grey
area.  Where others might have 17 or 18 or 124.  Once you get in
something that isnt industry standard, but is marketing lingo or a
marketing idea that is specific to one outfit you could be getting
into trouble.

Thats my $.02 and doesnt mean I'm right.  I wish I could think of
better examples, but English/writting is all I can come up with.  I
think in your situation with do's and dont's that are common sense and
common to the auto body industry then your safe, but once someone
starts taking marketing terms, slogans and so on thats when you get
into trouble.

On 6/23/06, Bob Meetin <orpc at frii.com> wrote:
> We're see eye to eye.  I had a similar conversation as your paragraph
> with the owners.  This basically falls in the widely known category.  I
> did what I could to move things around, change words where possible,
> change the order, etc.
>
> In essence, how many different ways can you say, "You are NOT required
> to get more than one estimate"?
>
> The design is certainly different, as will be the imagery, style when
> complete.  Perhaps the bigger question in mind is, "Does the list itself
> constitute the idea or is it line item by line?"  Hypothetically, if so
> would reorganizing the list be satisfactory?  Satisfactory is like
> saying you met the minimum requirements to move on to the next grade...
>
> I'm not big on "sticky" situations.
>
> -Bob
>
> Dan McCullough wrote:
>
> >If you are copying word for word it is usually considered plagiarism,
> >if its a new idea or not something widely known and you copy the idea
> >as your own some people might consider that plagiarism.  however if
> >you copy or list something that is widely known or industry standard
> >then you are usually fine.  I still would be very careful and take the
> >idea of the checklist and maybe reword the points on the checklist.  I
> >still would be very careful and make sure the design and image
> >elements were different.
> >
> >On 6/23/06, Bob Meetin <orpc at frii.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>along the lines of plagiarism - how do you manage it?  i'm sure that
> >>many of you have run into this scenario.
> >>
> >>i'm doing a site for a body shop - we brainstormed ideas of what pages
> >>will make up the site.  the business owners then did some market
> >>research with competitors' sites across the country.  they found a
> >>number of checklists that match what they want (already had decided on),
> >>just plain practical stuff - do's and don'ts - what to do if you get
> >>into an accident, etc.  they look pretty similar to what my insurance
> >>company gave me to place in my glovebox.
> >>
> >>i can change the wording, add a local-specific item or two (or drop),
> >>but fact is, the list is what it is.  this is what you do if you get
> >>into an accident. it's impossible to track down the original or
> >>practical content like this.  if you were to do a google search on "how
> >>do i set up a newsfeed?" you'll come up with over 1000 similar
> >>step-by-step recipes.
> >>
> >>so the related questions are
> >>
> >>1) does this constitute plagiarism?
> >>2) is it ethical?
> >>3) as a designer/developer, how do you manage common type content?
> >>
> >>
>
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