Why not collect the top 10 reasons why you shouldn't make your site accessible? That is less evangelizing and more "ah that is a problem, but here is a solution". http://www.digital-web.com/articles/ten_reasons_clients_dont_care_about_accessibility/ Feeling as if we are in a time bubble... -- Chris Heilmann Book: http://www.beginningjavascript.com Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/