> 1 2 3 > > 4 5 6 > > 7 8 9 > > * 0 # semantically, it's an ordered list, yes? or, perhaps, unordered, if we consider the numerical glyphs to be simply glyphs instead of numbers. semantically, it depends somewhat on what the keypad references. phone numbers? they're just glyphs. a calculator? they're numbers. joel