[thelist] Asp - the case of single quote that wouldn't die...

Joshua Olson joshua at waetech.com
Wed Dec 5 15:10:40 CST 2007

> From: Joel D Canfield
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:43 PM
> Yup; probably a formatting issue in your code. Invisible elves.
> Honest. Google 'invisible elves spinhead' and you'll find eleven
> conversations I've had with folks about how perfectly good code that
> wasn't working gets retyped in another file, and poof! it works.

HAHA, all too familiar of a situation.

Oh crap, now I owe a tip.  Here goes (inspired by a conversation this

<tip author="Joshua Olson" type="IE vs FF Rendering">
This is a tip for all those people who loathe Fire Fox rendering of HTML
because it just doesn't look right.

Rule #1: Fire Fox is *probably* correct, IE is likely wrong.
Rule #2: Not sure, see rule #1.

To get IE versions 6 and 7 to behave (to the best of their ability), make
sure you have a good DOCTYPE declaration and properly formatted HTML tag,
and make sure your code validates:


When you view the first couple lines of your source code *from the browser*,
it should have the DOCTYPE on the first line (no blank lines) and look
something like this (watch out for wrapping!):

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
    ... Rest of <head> stuff here ...

IE goes into "quirks mode" when the HTML above isn't correct.  That causes
the non-standard box model to be used, which, while it makes more sense,
isn't quite the standard.

Joshua L. Olson
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